Gas Cylinders

Ph1lTurner replied on 12/10/2018 20:38

Posted on 12/10/2018 20:38

Hi All,

My family used to have a caravan and it seems they stored the gas cylinders in the garage when they got rid off their van a few years back.

Now they want to give to us. May I ask a couple of questions:

  • Where is it best to store the cylinders over winter? Inside the caravan front storage, shed or just leave it outside?
  • We leave near Dartmoor so can get cold. Can the cylinder getting affected by frost or such like?
  • If it has not been used for a few years will it still be safe to use, etc?

Many thanks and sorry for the questions I've never used gas cylinders before.

Phil.

papgeno replied on 21/10/2018 19:39

Posted on 21/10/2018 09:03 by Cornersteady
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Posted on 21/10/2018 19:39

I always understood that there is no such thing as an empty gas cylinders. They're described in safety circles as " nominally empty ".

It's also the generally held view that a nominally empty cylinder if damaged can be more dangerous than a full or partially full cylinder possibly because the remaining gas is there in gaseous form and not liquified although I guess any liquified gas would soon turn gaseous.

Anyhoo this was all twenty years ago and I may have misremembered 🤓

Metheven replied on 22/10/2018 09:42

Posted on 22/10/2018 09:42

If you want to be rid of your gas bottles, the local recycling place will take them, well ours will as I took a couple of reds there last year. If you are keeping them then a well ventilated spot should be used.

RowenaBCAMC replied on 23/10/2018 12:33

Posted on 23/10/2018 12:33

Hi Phil,

Thanks for your post and I hope you have found the replies helpful. 

To add to this:

  • If the original cylinder paperwork can be found, the cylinders can be returned to official Calor retailers for refund of part of the original cylinder deposit (or ‘Refill Agreement Charge’ as Calor call or). The amount paid depends on the age of the cylinder. If you don’t have the paperwork, they will still pay you £7.50. See here for details and terms
  • If anyone has non-Calor cylinders to dispose of, there’s a handy list of contact details from which cylinder recovery arrangements can be found out here
  • If the cylinders are full (or reasonably so), they could be used for a variety of purposes – e.g. in a portable heater, or possibly with a gas barbeque (but check the compatibility of the barbeque for use with butane, as most tend to be set up for use with propane and will at least have a different regulator with a different attachment fitting)
  • As suggested elsewhere, unwanted cylinders can often be taken to recycling centres, from which the gas companies recover them for reuse, through an agreement with the industry trade associations UKLPG and BCGA

Note that Calor cylinders belong to Calor. You can’t legally sell them on eBay or turn them into pieces of sculpture or wood burning stoves, etc. A huge proportion of refillable cylinders are never returned to the company that owns them after their first issuing, which contributes significantly to the cost of refillable gas.

With regards to some of the comments on this discussion, please note everyone, it is very easy to misinterpret a posts meaning and as such it is much better to get clarification from the poster rather than turning the topic into a debate or arguments. Please can we keep this conversation on topic and free from arguments. I will be removing some of the posts on here. Many thanks. 

Ph1lTurner replied on 28/10/2018 20:49

Posted on 28/10/2018 20:49

Hi All,

Ha Ha, I was wondering why I saw a lot "Content has been removed" posts. Currently they are in the wooden shed, which has basic ventilation. I might move them to the open log store.

Regarding just "venting" them - thankfully I do have a small amount of common sense not to do that tongue-out.

Other question's I'm not 100% sure on are caravan's set-up to use butane or propane. For that I need to check the regulator, etc.?

Thanks

Phil.

peedee replied on 29/10/2018 06:31

Posted on 29/10/2018 06:31

Other question's I'm not 100% sure on are caravan's set-up to use butane or propane. For that I need to check the regulator, etc.?

Phil, I think you said your caravan is a 2008 Bailey, anything built after 2004 should have a regulator which can be used with either Butane or Propane. It is best to use Propane for all year round use.

peedee

Boff replied on 29/10/2018 11:54

Posted on 29/10/2018 11:54

A 2008 caravan will come with a bulkhead regulator. The gas bottles are connected to this by means of a length of high pressure tubing aka pigtail.  These are available in different end fittings dependant on the gas bottle connection.   Whether it is worth the cost of buying a pigtail to use up the gas.  Is a personal decision.  Peedee is correct Propane is the best bet for all year round use. Butane will struggle in colder weather like today. 

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