12 volt system troubles

AmberPaul replied on 11/10/2020 10:31

Posted on 11/10/2020 10:31

Ongoing Electronic controller box saga:

Dealer replaced the leisure battery and I dealt with a number of loose connections around the Controller box.

I am only getting less than 40AHrs from the "new" battery down to the control cut-off which is around 11.3v.

This tells me two things:

The battery is not in new condition and, having read a lot about Lead Acid batteries, the Bentley controller is allowing excessive discharge which will shorten the battery life even further.

Another issue is the ludicrously over-optimistic prediction of remaining battery capacity given by the Bentley button.  This shows remaining charge good for over 48 hours at 5.2Amps drain which implies the battery is a 232AHr device capable of 100% discharge, i.e complete nonsense.

I have emailed the control unit manufacturer for advice but have not had a reply beyond acknowledgment of receipt.

Any comments?

AmberPaul replied on 12/10/2020 16:54

Posted on 11/10/2020 10:31 by AmberPaul

Ongoing Electronic controller box saga:

Dealer replaced the leisure battery and I dealt with a number of loose connections around the Controller box.

I am only getting less than 40AHrs from the "new" battery down to the control cut-off which is around 11.3v.

This tells me two things:

The battery is not in new condition and, having read a lot about Lead Acid batteries, the Bentley controller is allowing excessive discharge which will shorten the battery life even further.

Another issue is the ludicrously over-optimistic prediction of remaining battery capacity given by the Bentley button.  This shows remaining charge good for over 48 hours at 5.2Amps drain which implies the battery is a 232AHr device capable of 100% discharge, i.e complete nonsense.

I have emailed the control unit manufacturer for advice but have not had a reply beyond acknowledgment of receipt.

Any comments?

Posted on 12/10/2020 16:54

I should have said the battery is a standard flooded Lead-Acid 100Ahr capacity.

hitchglitch replied on 12/10/2020 21:05

Posted on 12/10/2020 21:05

It would be helpful to know the make, model and age of your motorhome. The Ahr rating of a battery is at very specific discharge rates and in practice you will get quite a bit less, however, discharging to 11.3 volts is very bad practice. A fully charged battery should be around 12.7 volts and shouldn’t be allowed to go much less than 12.3 volts. 
Do you have a solar panel, is the motorhome permanently on charge? The charging regime very much depends on the type of charger fitted and maybe it is not properly charging or maintaining the battery. The simplest way to check is to monitor the battery voltage when charging and discharging. 

AmberPaul replied on 13/10/2020 18:17

Posted on 12/10/2020 21:05 by hitchglitch

It would be helpful to know the make, model and age of your motorhome. The Ahr rating of a battery is at very specific discharge rates and in practice you will get quite a bit less, however, discharging to 11.3 volts is very bad practice. A fully charged battery should be around 12.7 volts and shouldn’t be allowed to go much less than 12.3 volts. 
Do you have a solar panel, is the motorhome permanently on charge? The charging regime very much depends on the type of charger fitted and maybe it is not properly charging or maintaining the battery. The simplest way to check is to monitor the battery voltage when charging and discharging. 

Posted on 13/10/2020 18:17

Its a Bentley Amber 7 years old.

My tests on the dealer supplied " new" 100AHr FLA were run at 4 Amps so to the 11.3v cutoff should have delivered more than 20 Hours.

I have checked the inbuilt voltage and ammeter readings are accurate.

The control system does seem to allow over-discharge so am now monitoring voltage and not running down so low.

An unusual feature of the Bentley system is provided by the "Bentley Button".  It is supposed to predict hours of battery life left at current discharge rate but is wildly over-optimistic and seems to think I have a 230AHr battery capable of 100% discharge...crazy!

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