What would you like to see changed in the Club

Cornersteady replied on 26/10/2024 09:26

Posted on 26/10/2024 09:26

A total move over to all hardstanding pitches and more service pitches too, both of those are happening now of course.

ANPR entrance to sites coupled with optional payment in advance for easier entry, for those that want it.

Not too bothered about metering providing it is easy to use (just swipe one's bank card perhaps). 

LLM replied on 26/10/2024 09:48

Posted on 26/10/2024 09:48

Many of the most dynamic companies around the world have a policy of constant change at the top, which of course feeds down through the ranks.  Typically directors have a 4-5 year tenure.  They are then replaced with new blood often from within but sometimes from outside.  This constant process of renewal ensures stagnation does not set in.

I would like to see the CAMC old guard removed and replaced with fresh blood and ideas.  

DavidKlyne replied on 26/10/2024 10:27

Posted on 26/10/2024 10:27

As someone who has given up touring, although still a member, I think I would like to see how Experience Freedom develops. I don't imagine its suitable for all sites but geographically its not that widespread at the moment.

I also expect that it will be "events" that influence how the Club changes over the coming years, like the wider use of EV's. Will the hobby be as popular in, say, 20 years time? Will there be the same number of sites? I generally think the Club have got it more or less right at the moment. The wider use of motorhomes may well influence changes in the future but once we move to electric motorhomes will that put them out of reach cost wise for the majority of people?

David

eurortraveller replied on 26/10/2024 10:48

Posted on 26/10/2024 10:48

To negotiate with government the future development of the CL concept - which is over 60 years old and is out of date with modern times and  modern leisure trends.

Tinwheeler replied on 26/10/2024 11:32

Posted on 26/10/2024 00:32 by Martyn

As we are all members of our Club and we are entitled to voice our opinions, what would you like to see changed over the next five years?

Posted on 26/10/2024 11:32

Errr, no, we’re not all members of the club.

However, although it’s not my place to say what CAMC should change, both LLM and I might be encouraged to join/rejoin in future.

 

Hja replied on 26/10/2024 16:38

Posted on 26/10/2024 16:38

ANPR entry is good. Dont want serviced pitches. Do want drop & fill provision and cheaper overnight stops.

Much greater encouragement of CLs especially off grid. All sites, all pitches with metered electricity, providing that it is a very easy system. Encourage CLs to go down this route also.

A real and active understanding that more and more motorhomes are self sufficient and do not need all singing, all dancing sites.

Simon100 replied on 26/10/2024 20:55

Posted on 26/10/2024 20:55

But many caravanners do want all singing all dancing serviced hard standing pitches!

Unfortunately, that is the problem with this sort of discussion, everyone has a vested interest in what suits them best.

I would also suggest that, whilst we are members of the CAMC, we do not have a voice. The Club will make it's own decisions of what developments are required based on purely commercial factors as, at the end of the day, it is a business which needs to make money to survive.

Suggestions made in this thread which are not cost effective would be discounted even if we were listened to.

the browser replied on 27/10/2024 08:11

Posted on 27/10/2024 08:11

A real and active understanding that more and more motorhomes are self sufficient and do not need all singing, all dancing sites.

And so are caravans 

eurortraveller replied on 27/10/2024 08:37

Posted on 27/10/2024 08:11 by the browser

A real and active understanding that more and more motorhomes are self sufficient and do not need all singing, all dancing sites.

And so are caravans 

Posted on 27/10/2024 08:37

But VW Campers, trailer tents and baby Eribas are ‘t. Is the Club just to cater for the rich?

Cornersteady replied on 27/10/2024 08:45

Posted on 27/10/2024 08:45

Yet visit any all singing, all dancing club site and most, in fact virtually all in my experience, are predominantly full of MHs (and I include all types here including campervans), indeed look at any site that has SP and that will be mainly MHs, sometimes often as high as 80% - again in my experience. This of course mirrors the club's membership that now has more MH owners (and again I'm including all types here) than caravans and MH membership has grown significantly over the last few years so it is attracting MH owners into the club and more importantly onto its sites.

So while MHs and caravans may not need all singing and all dancing sites, their owners do want them.

Simon is correct that the club as a business will look at what its members, guests, customers, site users... (insert your preferred word here) want and are willing to pay and go with that.

And of course the club has a real and active understanding of what certain MH owners want but it will first and primarily look at what those owners who actually use club sites want? And it will cater for those. For better or worse, depending on which side one is on, the club has decided to offer MH and caravans sites which have HS, SP, EHU, facilities... if one wants something else... 

In fact those sites which do not have them appear to be not attracting anyone and have to be closed, four this year wasn't it. One CL owner in an interview recently put in HS, SP (I think) EHU and business went up and is (according to him) doing very well. 

Lastly I'm not sure what an all singing, all dancing site is, most club sites have a certain standard of HS, EHU, facilities, and now SP are becoming more prominent too. That is more or less the basic offering, some have more but it's under ten without counting.

As Simon said (sorry) it's all to do with what will bring income. What I or others put on here probably won't count for much but it's interesting to debate things.

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