Tow car question

cezzarich replied on 09/04/2021 15:32

Posted on 09/04/2021 15:32

After some general advice please?

I'm looking at getting a new tow car, car of choice is a Kia Sportage Gts line 2.0l 182bhp

The max tow weight of the car is 2200kgs. Our caravans weight is 1680kgs and the kerb weight of the car is 1723kgs. 

Now I know the advised towing ratio for inexperienced towers is 85%. This ratio would work out as 97%, has anyone got any advice or have towed a twin axle caravan with these sort of figures please and if you could give your experience please?

 

Also the car is a push button handbrake system, any issues anyone has found with towing with this type of system please?

Thanks in advance

EmilysDad replied on 10/04/2021 08:13

Posted on 10/04/2021 08:10 by

Yes Allan but with a Q5  the choice of caravans is going to be very widewink

Posted on 10/04/2021 08:13

When I saw & bought a Mercedes R Class, it then gave EmilysMum the go ahead to choose a huge twin axle Coachman ..... 🙄

EmilysDad replied on 10/04/2021 08:23

Posted on 10/04/2021 07:54 by allanandjean

Re the car we choose the car and then the van has to fit with that. If the Sportage is what you fancy, and will be able to do what you need and be legal, then why go for something else that is a ‘compromise’ just to get something heavier?

Re handbrake-back in 2012 I specified Hill Hold assist on my Audi Q5. It is a driver aid that actually does help, and way beyond its then £57 price tag, and I think is now standard.

Posted on 10/04/2021 08:23

 ... Re handbrake-back in 2012 I specified Hill Hold assist on my Audi Q5. It is a driver aid that actually does help, and way beyond its then £57 price tag, and I think is now standard.

A genuine question ... How does Hill Hold help  you?

I have cars with 2 variations of hill hold. On my Merc I give the foot brake another shove when stopped & the main brakes will hold the car forever & a day until I shove the pedal again or press the throttle to drive away. My Smarts will just hold the brakes on for 0.7secs (🤷‍♂️) to get your foot from brake to throttle without rolling. Neither system is something I thought I was missing. Hill starts can be achieved using whatever hand/parking brake you have. All cars assumed to automatic though on the rare occasion I drive Emily's manual car that has neither kind of hill hold assist, I never find myself rolling back or forward.

Extugger replied on 10/04/2021 08:25

Posted on 10/04/2021 08:25

 

Now I know the advised towing ratio for inexperienced towers is 85%.

This would suggest you do have experience towing? If that's the case then you should, with care, be ok. 

The electric handbrake is not a problem and if automatic (or DCT in your case) comes with Auto-Hold allowing the outfit to effectively remain braked whilst stationary, without the need to have your foot on the brake pedal. 

 

allanandjean replied on 10/04/2021 08:56

Posted on 10/04/2021 08:56

Hi ED, The clue is in the name! It saves having to locate the handbrake switch which, unlike a traditional handbrake, between the seats, not the Merc type, is mounted on the centre console and does not fall to hand as readily.

While I am sure that with practice it would become second nature I have    , in playing with the various systems, noticed that the tendency is to look down to locate the switch.

Mine works on the pressure applied so ‘normal braking’ at a junction etc does not apply the brake.

My car has many features that I do not ‘need’ but are useful and soon become the norm. 

Rufs replied on 10/04/2021 09:31

Posted on 10/04/2021 09:31

Do cars have handbrakes?, my Sorento has a position "P" on the stick in the middle, normal driving i use the footbrake, for long stationary periods i use "P" wink

Joking, it has a pedal somewhere to the left that applies the handbrake kick it down to apply, i think when you move off it releases but you get a nice warning bell to advise that you have not released the pedal, or at least i think that is how it works, cant remember the last time i used it as caravan has not moved from hardstanding since 2021 and would use it if on a hill with caravan in towlaughing

EmilysDad replied on 10/04/2021 10:36

Posted on 10/04/2021 09:31 by Rufs

Do cars have handbrakes?, my Sorento has a position "P" on the stick in the middle, normal driving i use the footbrake, for long stationary periods i use "P" wink

Joking, it has a pedal somewhere to the left that applies the handbrake kick it down to apply, i think when you move off it releases but you get a nice warning bell to advise that you have not released the pedal, or at least i think that is how it works, cant remember the last time i used it as caravan has not moved from hardstanding since 2021 and would use it if on a hill with caravan in towlaughing

Posted on 10/04/2021 10:36

My car has a P too .... though it's on the column, not in the middle. 😉

Rufs replied on 10/04/2021 10:51

Posted on 10/04/2021 10:36 by EmilysDad

My car has a P too .... though it's on the column, not in the middle. 😉

Posted on 10/04/2021 10:51

Had a Ford Corsair many years ago, manual column change and no probs getting 3 on the front bench seat, well before seat belts became fashionable. Never towed with it laughingbut it was a goer.

JVB66 replied on 10/04/2021 11:03

Posted on 10/04/2021 10:51 by Rufs

Had a Ford Corsair many years ago, manual column change and no probs getting 3 on the front bench seat, well before seat belts became fashionable. Never towed with it laughingbut it was a goer.

Posted on 10/04/2021 11:03

I  take it you are talking about the car? not the unobstructed "access" that front bench seats affordedsurprisedwinkcool

geoffeales replied on 16/04/2021 12:55

Posted on 16/04/2021 12:55

I've towed quite a few close-to-the-match outfits in my time and offer the following...

load everything heavy in the car, caravan spare wheel, jacks, levelling blocks and awning. Even box up the heavier groceries, bottles, tins etc. and put them in the car. If there are only two of you, put the back seats down and put the heaviest stuff right behind you so the weight is right between the axles. We lay clothes flat on the beds (they always fall off the wardrobe rails anyway), together with the battery and gas bottles that will do you for your nose weight. Keep speed to 60 max (it's the law for good reason) and select a low gear downhills. I find my car happiest at about 58mph in 5th gear (not 6th) but you will find your car's happy place. Keep a safe distance and avoid heavy braking. As for the handbrake, you have about 2 seconds between switch-off and release - generally enough. It might be worth learning the art of heel and tow (various on You Tube) which has got me out of trouble on a couple of occasions.

Happy (and safe) towing!

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