Hello. Proper newbie here.

Veldom replied on 05/09/2021 07:33

Posted on 05/09/2021 07:33

Hello all. 

September is an exciting month for me and my Mrs. I did a tow course yesterday. That was fun. Going to be under 3500kg so I'm not getting my b+e at this point. But tuition on towing, particularly reversing and how to hitch seemed important. 

 

We're going down the folding camper route. Viewing a pathfinder on Tuesday as it happens. They're local and have kindly offered to tow it to me if we buy. As the car doesn't get its tow bar until the 16th. 

Thinking of doing a bit of a shake down weekend once able, so possibly October at a local site (West Midlands) before putting the camper to bed until next spring. 

 

Are there many other folding camper owners here I wonder?

 

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 05/09/2021 15:07

Posted on 05/09/2021 14:21 by Veldom

4.88m long and 2.12m wide  

Posted on 05/09/2021 15:07

Excellent sizeπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»

Tinwheeler replied on 05/09/2021 15:18

Posted on 05/09/2021 14:57 by Veldom

I don't have driveway concerns if I can reverse it on. Being a novice to reversing something that bends might make that interesting though! That said I'm used to reversing an 18t rigid into ridiculously tight spaces. Think I'll be OK so long as I remember to turn the steering wheel the opposite way to get the folding camper moving. I'll post pictures!

Am getting some quotes in for storage sites which might well be the solution in the long term.

Posted on 05/09/2021 15:18

My thoughts were of possible difficulties in keeping the trailer in a straight line while reversing up hill as, just as you said, the rig bends in the middleπŸ˜€. Still, much depends on the width of your drive and the steepness of the slope. I hope it works for youπŸ‘πŸ».

Navigateur replied on 05/09/2021 16:28

Posted on 05/09/2021 16:28

Reversing a trailer in a straight line can involve a lot of the pushing unit not being in a straight line itself. If space is narrow it can be more of a hassle than needed.

I would consider fitting an eyebolt into the ground at the top of the slope and attaching a pulley to it.  Then thread a rope from the back (or even front if that would be a better way round) of the trailer, through the pulley and back down the drive.  A small winch attached to the tow vehicle would be the luxury version, but a ratchet pull-lift, a tirfor, or similar will work very well. As you have an assistant you could even attach to the tow vehicle and drive it slowly away from the drive.

Whatever you decide to do, buy a couple of decent size chocks!  And the eye bolt could attach a big chain the trailer when parked.

Veldom replied on 05/09/2021 17:20

Posted on 05/09/2021 16:28 by Navigateur

Reversing a trailer in a straight line can involve a lot of the pushing unit not being in a straight line itself. If space is narrow it can be more of a hassle than needed.

I would consider fitting an eyebolt into the ground at the top of the slope and attaching a pulley to it.  Then thread a rope from the back (or even front if that would be a better way round) of the trailer, through the pulley and back down the drive.  A small winch attached to the tow vehicle would be the luxury version, but a ratchet pull-lift, a tirfor, or similar will work very well. As you have an assistant you could even attach to the tow vehicle and drive it slowly away from the drive.

Whatever you decide to do, buy a couple of decent size chocks!  And the eye bolt could attach a big chain the trailer when parked.

Posted on 05/09/2021 17:20

Quite like this idea actually. Found a tirfor on  toolstaion that's reasonably priced, I could attach it to an eye bolt in the garage floor and winch straight up the drive. Though I'm struggling to find an eye bolt that is rated to take the 1000kg of the folding camper. The tirfor goes up to 4000kg. 

 

Tinwheeler replied on 05/09/2021 18:22

Posted on 05/09/2021 18:22

Many years ago we did something similar at the rear of our house using a Fairey Winch. It made the whole caravan parking thing more secure in that the van couldn’t take off down the garden and intrude on the neighbours down below us.

Navigateur replied on 05/09/2021 18:44

Posted on 05/09/2021 18:44

Ratings on eyebolts are usually given for a straight pull.  You would be pulling at almost 90 degrees to a straight pull so that will be greatly in your favour.  I'd think more about the strength of the floor!  You could always use two and a bridle.  The anchor bolts for motorbike security are high capacity.

eribaMotters replied on 05/09/2021 19:31

Posted on 05/09/2021 19:31

Veldron, just to throw a couple of spanners into the works. We have owned three folders in the past, Conway Cardinal, Pennine Pullman and Camplet. The later was a wonderful thing and at 250kg empty and 500kg full gave no issues with payload. I could pitch it in less than 10 minutes, get over 40mpg towing and storage was not an issue. Two double beds, a wardrobe, kitchen area with sink and hob along with large area under canvas were great. The only problem I found was reversing. It was so short I could not feel the trailer, so I would simply unhitch and pull/push into place.

Have you considered a pop top van such as an Eriba. Weights are low but unfortunately prices are high.

 

Colin

Veldom replied on 05/09/2021 20:00

Posted on 05/09/2021 19:31 by eribaMotters

Veldron, just to throw a couple of spanners into the works. We have owned three folders in the past, Conway Cardinal, Pennine Pullman and Camplet. The later was a wonderful thing and at 250kg empty and 500kg full gave no issues with payload. I could pitch it in less than 10 minutes, get over 40mpg towing and storage was not an issue. Two double beds, a wardrobe, kitchen area with sink and hob along with large area under canvas were great. The only problem I found was reversing. It was so short I could not feel the trailer, so I would simply unhitch and pull/push into place.

Have you considered a pop top van such as an Eriba. Weights are low but unfortunately prices are high.

 

Colin

Posted on 05/09/2021 20:00

I've looked at various light weight vans. For various reasons a folding camper is absolutely perfect for us right now. Also I find something really quaint about them and I really, really, like them. 

 

The pathfinder we're looking at is 4.88m long ex works weight is 840kg total permissable is 1000kg. So I'm hoping I'll feel it on the back. The instructor I was out with yesterday said I'd probably find it'll respond very quickly to not much input when reversing. You can bet I'll be in an empty car park with it, practicing. 

 

We'll see I'm game for trying. At home this winching suggestion is something I'll adopt I think. On sites if I really struggle to reverse it I'll push it myself. Or get a motor mover fitted! 

eribaMotters replied on 05/09/2021 20:19

Posted on 05/09/2021 20:19

Don't skimp on the winch rating if you go that route. I stripped the teeth off one some years ago when pulling a previous Eriba into the garage. A mover is a wonderful thing and well worth it if funds allow. Once you have had one you will never go back to a van/trailer tent without one.

 

Colin

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