Auto stop/start when towing with an automatic

IanHCharles replied on 27/09/2019 22:24

Posted on 27/09/2019 22:24

I have a diesel BMW 2L 3 series automatic that has automatic stop/start.  It's the first car with this function that I have driven when towing.  Should it be switched off when towing

ocsid replied on 22/02/2020 14:10

Posted on 22/02/2020 13:14 by Vulcan

Why would you keep your foot on the brake if the handbrake is on? The fact that it is a feature of using an automatic does not mean that you cannot use some common sense and good manners by not dazzling the driver behind and complying with the Highway Code.

Posted on 22/02/2020 14:10

I am saying they do keep a foot on the foot brake, as is evidenced by the brake lights, even those you know the car features an auto parking brake.

Rerurning to the point you made that I can't grasp. How would redesigning the stop start integrated with the parking brake, alleviate the brake light issue?

ocsid replied on 22/02/2020 14:18

Posted on 22/02/2020 14:18

"I drive a manual and an auto and treat them both the same. Handbrake on and gear lever in neutral/N."

So do I, my observation though is about others, seemingly many others, by the wreched amount of times I sit flood lit by brake lights.

Our manual does the parking brake without any intervention from us, both on and off.

Tinwheeler replied on 22/02/2020 14:22

Posted on 22/02/2020 14:18 by ocsid

"I drive a manual and an auto and treat them both the same. Handbrake on and gear lever in neutral/N."

So do I, my observation though is about others, seemingly many others, by the wreched amount of times I sit flood lit by brake lights..

Posted on 22/02/2020 14:22

My findings as well, Ocsid, but they aren't predominantly auto drivers in my opinion.👍🏻

Rufs replied on 22/02/2020 14:51

Posted on 22/02/2020 14:51

So do I, my observation though is about others, seemingly many others, by the wreched amount of times I sit flood lit by brake lights.

IMO then you are driving too close, I have an auto and the last time i used the handbrake was probably when we returned from Spain last year on the ferryundecided

ocsid replied on 22/02/2020 14:52

Posted on 22/02/2020 14:22 by Tinwheeler

My findings as well, Ocsid, but they aren't predominantly auto drivers in my opinion.👍🏻

Posted on 22/02/2020 14:52

Okay, let my clarify the point, auto drivers don't have to touch any gear selection facility from that done during starting a journey and finishing it. Though some like us, do choose to get ourselves involved. They sometimes never need to touch the parking brake year in year out either, it all happens magically.

Therefore, I have reason to believe many auto drivers do nothing but hold on the foot brake, even those whos cars could well have applied the parking brake for them. 

The issue I can't see,  relates to this thread where stop start  and autos are involved and the suggestion that integrating it with the "handbrake" would alleviate this glaring brake light. 

Vulcan replied on 22/02/2020 17:12

Posted on 22/02/2020 14:51 by Rufs

So do I, my observation though is about others, seemingly many others, by the wreched amount of times I sit flood lit by brake lights.

IMO then you are driving too close, I have an auto and the last time i used the handbrake was probably when we returned from Spain last year on the ferryundecided

Posted on 22/02/2020 17:12

It is a legal requirement to apply the handbrake whenever a vehicle is left unattended. You would have to be very unsympathetic mechanically to rely on a small pawl to cover all situations.

Vulcan replied on 22/02/2020 17:23

Posted on 22/02/2020 14:52 by ocsid

Okay, let my clarify the point, auto drivers don't have to touch any gear selection facility from that done during starting a journey and finishing it. Though some like us, do choose to get ourselves involved. They sometimes never need to touch the parking brake year in year out either, it all happens magically.

Therefore, I have reason to believe many auto drivers do nothing but hold on the foot brake, even those whos cars could well have applied the parking brake for them. 

The issue I can't see,  relates to this thread where stop start  and autos are involved and the suggestion that integrating it with the "handbrake" would alleviate this glaring brake light. 

Posted on 22/02/2020 17:23

I take your point Ocsid, maybe I assumed that many people apply the footbrake specifically in order to activate stop start, in that case if it was activated by the handbrake that would alleviate the problem. I have to concede that I can't think of a solution for the less intelligent drivers in your second paragraph.

ocsid replied on 22/02/2020 18:01

Posted on 22/02/2020 18:01

"IMO then you are driving too close,"

I don't think so, these high level brake stop lights punch out light quite a way behind the vehicle, that penetrating visibility is actually what they are made so bright to achieve.wink

EmilysDad replied on 22/02/2020 20:49

Posted on 22/02/2020 11:34 by Vulcan

In my opinion the system is badly thought out, it should only activate when the handbrake is applied. This would alleviate the annoying habit of idle drivers sitting with their foot on the brake dazzling the driver behind at night because they are too lazy or ignorant to use the handbrake as required.

Posted on 22/02/2020 20:49

Nothing to do with 'idle' drivers. My Merc has a function called 'hold'. You give a brake pedal a double shove & it holds the hydraulic brake system but .... the brake lights stay on. 

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