Spare Motorhome Keys

HOTORMOMER replied on 27/03/2018 18:56

Posted on 27/03/2018 18:56

I've just had the shock of my life. I wanted a spare key for my Fiat Ducato based motorhome.That's the key ,not the remote 'zapper'.I called the local dealer, told him the registration and he said that would be about £200.00 plus £90.00 for re-programming! 'That's around £300.00 for a key' I said. 'Ah but there's a piece of electronic wizardry built into it' he said. That may well be' I told him 'but I can go down to Currys and buy something full of electronic wizardry called a flat screen t.v. for that price.Why so expensive? Has anyone experienced the same? Are all vehicle spare keys this expensive?

 

HOTORMOMER replied on 28/03/2018 13:55

Posted on 28/03/2018 13:55

I've just been in touch with our local Timpsons and they say they can provide a replacement key for £60.00!! including reprogramming. Quite a difference to Fiat's £300.00. Does anyone know anything of Timpson's service regarding smart keys?

replied on 28/03/2018 14:51

Posted on 28/03/2018 14:51

Only that they have done it at some of their outlets for a while

EmilysDad replied on 28/03/2018 17:09

Posted on 28/03/2018 10:57 by Freedom a whitebox

Just a quick note, should someone have the misfortune to have a vehicle stolen and not have the second key, they may find that their insurance won’t pay out without the second key.

i know someone that expirenced that.

they were told that, with the theft devices fitted to modern cars, it was considered that a key would be needed to steal the vehicle.

Posted on 28/03/2018 17:09

And we all know insurance companies talk cr4p

https://youtu.be/AJb-P7TJFI0

Milothedog replied on 28/03/2018 17:22

Posted on 28/03/2018 17:22

I don't wish to give anyone sleepless nights, but if a professional gang want your car/motorhome then if it only has a smart key and not a physical metal key then it's very easy for them. This is thanks to Can-Bus. that can be hacked by getting access to the cables. Guess what. most modern vehicles have plastic covers on the electric wing mirrors with said wiring inside. 

Got this info from a friend who has a business in the auto security industry.  

Metheven replied on 28/03/2018 18:52

Posted on 28/03/2018 18:52

I think you will find no CANBUS wiring inside of the wing mirrors, just bog standard wires isolated from the CANBUS.

CANBUS wiring only go so far as the modules and the nearest would be the door module, safely out of reach unless opened in which case might as well use the diagnostic socket.

 

Milothedog replied on 28/03/2018 19:14

Posted on 28/03/2018 19:14

I'm only passing on what I was made aware of by someone who is involved in countering such measures? Can Hi & Low run in to many parts of a vehicles electrical system, not necessarily only in the passenger compartment,   although your correct in saying they only connect between nodes/modules/ecu's etc. I think you'll agree that anything can be hacked nowadays if you have the knowledge, software and hardware to do it. 

 

 

 

TonyIshUK replied on 02/04/2018 19:33

Posted on 02/04/2018 19:33

Easy now a days to fool the canbus, just need a live, Earth and signal wire. Which is about any wire not earth or live !!

gismo, computer Bluetooth smart phone and your in the vehicle.

it seems that expensive smart key car owners are reverting back to buying kroklocks to lock the steering wheel for the car, as the smart keys are a pretty dumb way to secure a car.  

Rgds

 

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