Hybrid tow car

DenandAnn replied on 18/02/2020 11:01

Posted on 18/02/2020 11:01

My Hubby wants to change our diesel tow car for a hybrid . He has short listed  2 models the Mitsubishi outlander and the Rav 4. Our caravan weighs 1450, Has anyone towed with these cars. We would be interested in their opinions, as we can find little info on using thsese as tow cars  

brue replied on 21/08/2020 09:11

Posted on 20/08/2020 21:08 by Oscarmax

Well as promised Den and Ann

We have been back from the New Forest for a while, it was steep learning curve, we had time on our hands so travelled around 50 mph ish, being new to all this we we expecting 17 mpg and the PHEV running out of steam, nothing could be further from the truth.

The journey was 178 miles each way, we had a full charge before starting each journey on the way down we travelled 14 mile in EV mode (electric) before joining the M6 Toll Road, we had 6 miles charge left, we then pressed the charge button, the engine was now running just enough to supply electricity to the front motor, any excess energy went to recharge the batteries. When we hit a steepish incline the energy display showed electric being supplied to the rear motors, we soon learnt on the way down when approaching roundabout/ junctions switch the charge mode of and the batteries will power the motors, when travelling in built up areas just use the EV mode, the press charge when over 40 mph when on the highway. On the way down used 30.73 litres and average fuel consumption 26.6mpg.

On the way home we were a bit wiser we pressed the charge button when the battery was depleted just above 50%, it was pouring with rain requiring the heater to clear the windscreen 50% of the journey, on the way back we travelling around 55mph plus, the PHEV seemed a lot happier or the car engine was starting to loosen up, we used archived 27.6 mpg after filling up to brim.

We used no fuel whilst on holiday just a few £2.00 charges. Since coming back from holiday we have not filled up just running of electric spending just over £10.00 on electric. Following the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV forums the trick is to use the charge mode for majority of the towing. We are going back down to the New Forest in September the Outlander PHEV has now over 1600 miles on the clock so I am hoping I can achieve 28 mpg.

Posted on 21/08/2020 09:11

It's good to hear how things went, although we're running a full EV which doesn't tow the experience of adjusting compares with ours. It also shows for local journeys the charging system is more than adequate and costs very little v diesel or petrol. 

We are sticking with our ev but a hybrid would give us extra usage regarding towing trailers etc. We've been impressed with the hybrid technology when trying it out. 

Oscarmax replied on 21/08/2020 11:01

Posted on 21/08/2020 09:39 by Amesford

Last week we picked up our new 2 ltr diesel Kuga Mhev (Mild Hybrid and does not need to be plugged in) we were hoping to go away next month to test it out but its not looking good at the moment.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-p__-iKMEM&t=3s

 

Posted on 21/08/2020 11:01

 We just changed from a 2017 Ford Kuga 150 bhp powershift it was an excellent tow car, we were achieving 28 -29 mpg towing. 

You will really  notice the extra torque generated from the hybrid system, pulling away from standing start at of roundabout.

Look forward to your reviews.

Oscarmax replied on 21/08/2020 11:07

Posted on 21/08/2020 08:08 by cyberyacht

Doresn't sound particularly impressive. Over a six year period, overall I managed around 32-33mpg with a 2L Kuga towing 1350Kg.

Posted on 21/08/2020 11:07

Our Kuga 150bhp powershift achieved 28 -29mpg towing our 1500 Swift Conqueror 480 plus petrol is 6 pence cheaper, financially the Outlander PHEV only had 543 miles on the clock it needs to loosen up a bit?

Oscarmax replied on 03/10/2020 11:09

Posted on 03/10/2020 11:09

Well back from Black Knowl again  gain a lot more experience still happy with the Outlander PHEV, PHEV now at 2500 miles and has loosened up a little the car showing 29.6mpg but in reality achieving 28.3mpg on the way down measure brim to brim, it was extremely cold the return journey again measured brim to brim it measured 26.5 mpg, as petrol is a little cheaper than diesel it compares very well when compared to our 2017 Ford Kuga Powershift with 20,000 miles on the clock.

Over the past 4 months and 2500 miles we calculate we have saved just over £180 in fuel cost compared to the Kuga, this includes petrol, changing up at home £0.50 a charge and charging up at clubs site £2.00 a day.

The Ford Kuga is definitely a better towcar by far, however the PHEV has superior running costs.

Debbie Phillips replied on 19/11/2020 11:01

Posted on 19/11/2020 11:01

We are thinking about leasing an Outlander. Has anyone had any experience of this?

flatcoat replied on 19/11/2020 12:50

Posted on 19/11/2020 12:50

Experience of leasing or experience of the Outlander? If the latter just read the thread but bear in mind Mitsubishi are pulling out of the UK/EU, the outlander is basically an 8 year old design and there are much newer and better hybrids around for similar money. 

Debbie Phillips replied on 19/11/2020 14:53

Posted on 19/11/2020 14:53

Leasing & the Outlander. Good point about Mitsibushis standing in the UK. I have looked at many different hybrids (online) and cant see any others that have the tow capacity at similar price. Any suggestions?

Oscarmax replied on 19/11/2020 16:08

Posted on 19/11/2020 14:53 by Debbie Phillips

Leasing & the Outlander. Good point about Mitsibushis standing in the UK. I have looked at many different hybrids (online) and cant see any others that have the tow capacity at similar price. Any suggestions?

Posted on 19/11/2020 16:08

SsangYong cars are in advanced negotiations with Mitsubishi to take over from Colt cars.

The Outlander PHEV was updated in 2019 with a 2.4 litre engine a larger battery and updated electrics/motors, plus it has a 4WD and good off road abilities.

The latest similar price 2WD alternatives Ford Kuga PHEV towing limit 1200kg, Peugeot/Citroen PHEV 1250kg.

More expensive alternatives 2WD Skoda Superb/VW Passat or the new Volvo PHEV range.

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