Clean Air Greater Manchester

A similar change of route happened nr Monkton Heathfield nr Taunton where a 100m section of the A38 was declared a Bus Lane and the original A38 was diverted right around a new housing estate with the obligatory half dozen roundabouts, most leading nowhere...

however, the Highways Agency are happy to have all southbound traffic from Clarks village, heading for the M5, go through this new maze and the village of Bathpool and negotiate the horrendous traffic lights as they reach Taunton, but they then have to pass through the traffic negotiating the large retail park and cinema complex before reaching J25...

solution, a simple south only exit road from A358 directly onto the M5 which would bypass the whole of the above without any new roads at all...

re the congestion zones, both my car and MH are allowed into all the current zones, but that will change in a year or so...just another way of raising cash and putting folk off visiting towns and cities which, without suitable alternative easy methods into the city folk will not bother.

a classic example is at Bath Newgate P&R which services traffic arriving from the south and west...height barriers so I can't park my MH there (as you'd think the council would want us to do?) and take the bus...

yes, some other Bath P&R don't have barriers but why would I want to try and get to the other side of town just to park, why not have consistency in how the car parks work?

it's things like this that lead to customer frustration and eventual apathy. 

It's very frustrating to find the number of P&R's that have height barriers. It does rather defeat the object of them, particularly as the larger the vehicle, the more you want to keep them out of town centres.

The level of self interest and ignorance in this discussion is appalling. This ‘zone’ is not like the one in London or other cities, it is 500 square mile, taking in the whole of greater Manchester. It is putting thousands of small businesses owners out of work. It will increase prices for everyone who lives in greater Manchester and even those who live outside the area but buy goods or services from within the area. If they can do it here that can do it where YOU live next, and if you think it will stop at cat5 and below you are living in a bubble, it will soon be all vehicles.

The level of self interest and ignorance in this discussion is appalling.

How rude.

Still has a very valid point though

Not really, mostly speculation. 

I prefer to promote health & save lives than make money on the backs of folks suffering tbh🤷🏻‍♂️. If it spreads countrywide-good, I’ll pay more to support health👍🏻

You come from the same area ? If so what is your definition of it

At what point does the Clean Air Zone apply to normal cars? They seem to have been very selective in the classes of vehicles they have included in the list that will pay the charges. Including motorhomes is a bit strange in that there can hardly be that many that transit the roads of Manchester on a daily basis? Perhaps its because motorhomes are van derived that they feel they need to include them in order to have the same base vehicles treated the same?

David

I can see your point, and those living in more rural areas away from those areas do not really. understand the implications of how it affects  the citizens of those areas,in the short term ??

Although, as in The London area 140 square miles most had adapted and until the pandemic hit there was  very good public transport services