Clean Air Greater Manchester

I agree with you, joined up thinking is needed, my suggestion is-don’t include Politicians in any of the stages from start to finish👍🏻

Yes, it needs an integrated approach. Any new build, be it domestic or commercial to include eco friendly power solutions, a really good transport system, affordable by all, to get folks back onto public transport etc.... 

This piecemeal approach is woefully inadequate, has been for decades. GM has been a nightmare conurbation to travel to and through for decades. It’s somewhere we seldom go, despite being only 40 miles away. You can sit and watch TV on some of the big gantries they have in place, it takes that long to crawl around. Once every decade is our married average of a visit across there.....a football match, a cycling event, delivering an item, and a shop visit that had us vowing not to return. Horrible to get to from here, horrible to get through or around. It looks very interesting, in fact I said to OH I wouldn’t mind another look around Old Trafford and the Cathedral, but it would be on train if it’s possible. That of course would be time consuming........

Rather like London, this is now a city I will not visit - knowingly.

If you wish to charge then be prepared for a drop in footfall at your local shops.

The next thing will be charging for car parking on a Sunday. This happened in Tunbridge Wells and was known as the 'Church goer's Tax'.

Where will it all end?

Where will it all end?

In a cleaner environment for future generations to enjoy whatever green spaces will be left to them. Too late for us oldies, the damage has often been done, as a recently diagnosed Asthma sufferer can testify.

I'm glad to see this move being made by GM.

We lived in Radcliffe/Bury for some years and worked in and around what is now the inner suburbs and towns of GM. It was a nightmare to negotiate over 30 years ago and obviously hasn't improved with an increase in the volume of traffic. I hate having to go anywhere near the centre of the city nowadays although we would like to venture in without the car to see how much we recognise.

It was a good place to be in your early twenties, a hive of musical innovation.

Whether the club will see a downturn in numbers to Burrs Park is debatable. The city sites seem to do well enough.

With regard to Pliers comments can she let me know whether GM have now re-integrated the whole system into their control and when they did it if they did. Thanks.

The £10 charge will certainly hit motorhome owners with euro 5 engines and below.

Whilst I am all for cleaner air, to impose this charge on the whole of Greater Manchester seems severe.

In my case I am 5 miles from the M60 and only 2 miles from the Derbyshire border. I would never venture into the city centre with the MH.

I am not sure where the cameras are but it could be the case that as soon as I take the MH out to be serviced, to fill up with diesel, or out on a trip I will incur the £10 charge for travelling a few miles.

I have already submitted my views to the consultation !

 The opening post informed us that £120Million Government Backing is supporting this. The Government backing is National for the local authorities to access.

If it’s the same as the one in Bath, which I believe it is, it isn’t particularly all encompassing. I strayed into this as we headed north from Salisbury a few weeks ago and went online to pay up. Only to learn that it didn’t include any cars /  motorbikes or vans with the euro 6 engine like ours. Basically it only seemed to affect HGV’s and older vans. Whilst it was nice not to have to fork out  and I would have avoided it if I had realised it was there. Surely it needs to stop more of the older cars as well as vans and HGV’s if it is to make much difference.

That may be the case but they are leaving it up to local authorities how they implement such schemes and as such the schemes could be different depending what place you are in. I would suggest it would be more practical if they were operating to the same plan across the country. 

As far as I am concerned, the genie left the lamp in the early 1980’s. Where and when I grew up, you didn’t need a car to go to school, to meet up with friends, to do all but a very big shop. Schools were local, buses were frequent, on time and very cheap. I and my family could go anywhere in South Yorks for 10p for an adult, 2p for a child. You even had a free bus pass for school. Buses were very busy, but went absolutely all over. So the vast majority of workers, of all kinds, miners, steelworkers, teachers, bankers, shop assistants, council workers etc.... everyone used the buses.

My family never had a car, most of my friends didn’t have cars, or if they did, they were used at weekends or special occasion. People lived closer to their work, went to school locally, enjoyed themselves locally more. We used trains for journeys further afield. All that changed in the 1980’s, and everyone had to change with it. Work was further away, schools started to vie for pupils, the buses were de regulated, shopping habits changed with the big supermarkets going out of town. You needed a car far more, just for daily living.

Once you have had one, you don’t want to give it up. For many, ownership of a car represents independence and a better life. For many women, it represents safety. We are now nearly all travellers of one kind of another, and only cars/vehicles give us this true freedom. But the health cost of that is now being seen in a variety of ways. The answers appear very piecemeal at the moment. 

I have just checked our 3 vehicles out. We can take our 50 year old MG in free of charge. We can take our huge Jeep Wrangler in free of charge. The MH isn’t welcome though. Only to drive through.