CL Price Rises

harryb replied on 08/07/2022 18:06

Posted on 08/07/2022 18:06

I have just read a report on FB about a cl owner apologising for putting up her prices.

I thought it a very refreshing reply to some of the large price increases I've seen lately. What cl's owners have to remember is that they are not the only ones suffering from the present climate, so are the members.

I have pasted the article below with some minor changes for identity reasons.

"Just returned from this little gem CL.  It’s *************** at ************, There are EHUs around the edge of the field and a toilet and shower. The owner is extremely friendly and checked with us most days that everything was ok. She said she had to increase the pitch price this year to £15pn, which I said was understandable and still a very good price. Her response was that she didn’t want to increase it too much as WE had to pay so much more for fuel than last year and if she charged too much people wouldn’t be able to afford to use their caravans and motor homes. I thought that it’s a great shame more site owners don’t have the same outlook.".

cyberyacht replied on 22/07/2022 09:13

Posted on 22/07/2022 09:13

What I always find puzzling is the preponderance for 'sooper-dooper' vans with massive end bathrooms that remain unused whilst the owner insists on a fancy facilities block. All that duplication of facilities costs money.

neveramsure replied on 22/07/2022 09:44

Posted on 22/07/2022 09:13 by cyberyacht

What I always find puzzling is the preponderance for 'sooper-dooper' vans with massive end bathrooms that remain unused whilst the owner insists on a fancy facilities block. All that duplication of facilities costs money.

Posted on 22/07/2022 09:44

Well Cy, that's because the end bathroom is just an en suite and dressing room for the OH.wink

As said many times in the past, the main thing is that members continue to use CLs of their chosen type, be it basic or full facility. The price they pay per night is something for individuals to decide.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 22/07/2022 09:59

Posted on 22/07/2022 09:44 by neveramsure

Well Cy, that's because the end bathroom is just an en suite and dressing room for the OH.wink

As said many times in the past, the main thing is that members continue to use CLs of their chosen type, be it basic or full facility. The price they pay per night is something for individuals to decide.

Posted on 22/07/2022 09:59

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Cornersteady replied on 22/07/2022 10:12

Posted on 22/07/2022 09:13 by cyberyacht

What I always find puzzling is the preponderance for 'sooper-dooper' vans with massive end bathrooms that remain unused whilst the owner insists on a fancy facilities block. All that duplication of facilities costs money.

Posted on 22/07/2022 10:12

Have you posted in the wrong thread, this is the CL one?

Apart from choice, are you saying that large bathrooms are causing higher prices in CLs?

DavidKlyne replied on 22/07/2022 10:18

Posted on 21/07/2022 21:08 by harryb

A lot of discussion has taken place since I first posted 2 weeks ago.

Just to add another massive hike in a cl price.

2019 a new cl with ehu and water hook plus drain opened not to many miles from me and it took my interest because it was near to friends. It started life at £18 per night and we said we would book on sometime. Obviously 2020 took a hit because of Covid and in late 2020 after lockdown we decided to try to book on. Looking at their entry on the club website there was a bold headline stating, "This cl is not taking any bookings until further notice". I have checked back periodically only to find the same notice.

Just tonight I have checked again and it has reopened on the 15th June this year so we would go to book on. The new price is now £25 per night. So we haven't.

The cl only opened 3 years ago and had been closed for at least half of that time so I find it unexplainable as to the reason for such a massive 39% increase. All facilities are the same.

Posted on 22/07/2022 10:18

I suppose it depends on the motivation of the site owner in terms of whether the CL is their main source of income? Even if full every night of the year at £25 a night it would only gross about £45000 a year. If we assume that 50% occupancy is more likely you are down to an income of £22500 a year and by the time you deduct all the running costs that figure will diminish further. There does seem to be an expectation that CL's should be run on a sort hobby basis by the owners but I suspect that new to CL owners will look at it very differently. £25 a night only seems expensive because up until now the majority of CL's have cost less, by some margin it seems? Would I pay £25 a night for a CL. The answer to that is yes if it met with my location requirements and location is always my overriding key decision maker.

David

harryb replied on 22/07/2022 11:25

Posted on 22/07/2022 10:18 by DavidKlyne

I suppose it depends on the motivation of the site owner in terms of whether the CL is their main source of income? Even if full every night of the year at £25 a night it would only gross about £45000 a year. If we assume that 50% occupancy is more likely you are down to an income of £22500 a year and by the time you deduct all the running costs that figure will diminish further. There does seem to be an expectation that CL's should be run on a sort hobby basis by the owners but I suspect that new to CL owners will look at it very differently. £25 a night only seems expensive because up until now the majority of CL's have cost less, by some margin it seems? Would I pay £25 a night for a CL. The answer to that is yes if it met with my location requirements and location is always my overriding key decision maker.

David

Posted on 22/07/2022 11:25

I can agree on your comment about costs appearing expensive to what they were some years ago.

However my overriding factor is solely my budget and these new prices in the mid £20's do not fit in with that.

I may sound over critical of cl prices but the end result is if I want to maintain this pastime my objective in doing so is the cost of my holiday. The cheaper the cl the more money I have to enjoy my time away.

eurortraveller replied on 22/07/2022 11:29

Posted on 22/07/2022 11:29

My nearest farm field CL has managed to collect just three reviews in ten years. (Two liked it, one didn’t) . That response doesn’t imply he is getting many visitors, and it doesn’t strike me that the owner is making very much money - even though some members will say on here that the prices should be cheaper.

harryb replied on 22/07/2022 12:53

Posted on 22/07/2022 11:29 by eurortraveller

My nearest farm field CL has managed to collect just three reviews in ten years. (Two liked it, one didn’t) . That response doesn’t imply he is getting many visitors, and it doesn’t strike me that the owner is making very much money - even though some members will say on here that the prices should be cheaper.

Posted on 22/07/2022 12:53

But ET that's just supposition

DavidKlyne replied on 22/07/2022 12:53

Posted on 22/07/2022 11:25 by harryb

I can agree on your comment about costs appearing expensive to what they were some years ago.

However my overriding factor is solely my budget and these new prices in the mid £20's do not fit in with that.

I may sound over critical of cl prices but the end result is if I want to maintain this pastime my objective in doing so is the cost of my holiday. The cheaper the cl the more money I have to enjoy my time away.

Posted on 22/07/2022 12:53

Harry

The problem I see for the future is that if members are going to limit themselves to lower priced CL's it doesn't bode well for the future especially if we want to encourage new CL's to open. Newcomers to operating a CL are far more likely to look closely at the set up and operating costs which shouldn't be underestimated. The solution is in our own hands we either bite the bullet and pay, we cut back on the time we spend away or we give up I think it is as simple as that. Even if you spent all your time away on Club sites its still likely to be more economic than other forms of holidays. A 10 day Cruise for both of us is likely to cost as much as 60/70 nights away in the motorhome in a year?

David

Takethedogalong replied on 22/07/2022 14:11

Posted on 22/07/2022 11:29 by eurortraveller

My nearest farm field CL has managed to collect just three reviews in ten years. (Two liked it, one didn’t) . That response doesn’t imply he is getting many visitors, and it doesn’t strike me that the owner is making very much money - even though some members will say on here that the prices should be cheaper.

Posted on 22/07/2022 14:11

That might be the location more than anything. Most folks, particularly those new to Cornwall, are more likely to choose a coastal location, rather than an inland moorland one. We love Bodmin Moor, but it won’t suit everyone. If it’s a farm, owner might not be that bothered as it’s diversification from main business. If it’s a quite old CL, then maybe some of the things in the reviews need addressing, as it might be a bit dated in some aspects? If it’s under £20 a night, let me know as it could be one for us😁

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