White Tailed Sea Eagles, IOW

Most of us small private farmers are doing that quietly in our own way, ie small  native tree planting ( see my acorn post), a few small ponds, nesting boxes etc. Its the same old  age long problem of the Gentry, big business and City tycoons who abuse as they only chase profits. Likewise the eco warriors with books etc to sell that cause dissent.

Most "country folks and farmers act responsibly but video evidence of foxhounds being killed and thrown into skips also dairy cows being kicked and dragged around by farm machinery does not help the case for caring country folks

So very different from the few examples of child cruelty, muggings etc in urban areas, but we dont blanket blame city folks. Some just cant accept that most country folk do things properly.

I am the first generation of my a side of our family who did not follow as a gamekeeper as I was born in Kensington  in the war ,when my father with some of his brothers all gamekeepers came from Sandringham to help at Buck House 

My Great Great Grandfather Was Gamekeeper in Wiltshire  ,My Great Grandfather gamekeeper at Harewood House and my Grandfather at Sandringham 

And listening to tales of the going on then I think they would be appalled at the way some country folk? these days treat wildlife

 As you say Most but as in all parts of society there are bad apples

Absolutely right JVB, I have no axe to grind with those who attempt to live in some harmony with nature, nor those who are ambivalent. It’s the ones who for selfish reasons act in cruel and destructive ways. Such barbaric action continues to happen with little sign of improvement.

https://www.channel4.com/news/gamekeeper-who-beat-two-buzzards-to-death-given-suspended-jail-sentence

JVb Your ancestors like all those who worked on big estates were in reality white slaves. The gamekeepers did as they were told with no comebacks.They killed anything that was not "game" with gin traps and the like.Indiscriminate use of Strychnine,killing anything that touched the bait. If they refused not only did they lose their job but their home as well,with no welfare state to fall back on.  It was in the Edwardian and Victorian times that the greatest destruction of wildlife took place. Today keeper  are monitored with rural crime police and other bodies.Just see how many  organisations are looking into the demise ofv he Sea Eagle now. Life was not like Downton Abbey or sanitised Tv wildlife programmes but brutal and difficult to survive for the ordinary person.

Fisherman, thanks for hijacking this post!! 😖

I was only responding to inaccurate posts here. Sorry. As keen to hear exactly what happened to the birds as you.

Sorry, Fisherman, but you tried to hijack the discussion as early as the 12th post, on the 17th Feb, which was removed, and then you continued with your tirade against the idea of rewilding. You could well have just ignored this thread and continued with your arguments in the appropriate post, or started your own one.