Mole Traps

A better alternative - enforced birth control

I believe it was an external contractor laying the traps, not the Wardens, but someone must have ordered the work.

Obviously until you have a further reply from the Club we won't know. However I suppose there is just a possibility that it might not be at the bidding of the Club? I am not sure what the status of Old Hartley is viz a viz whether the site is owned by the Club or leased. If it is leased it could be the lease holder who has ordered the work for a reason we don't yet know about? Or, of course it could equally have been ordered by the Club. Once we have the information we can all make a more informed assessment of whether the work was needed or not?

JK

Just to put the record straight I was referring to the Opening Post's first few lines,

"I was disgusted to find out that Caravan Club Policy is to trap and kill moles.

I saw a man setting mole traps along the external and internal perimeter hedge at the entrance to Old Hartley Club Site on Sunday 19 September 2021.

I enquired if he was setting mole traps and he said yes. I asked if that was ethical and humane. He said it was better than seeing mole hills. I said 'is it really?'. He said it was Caravan Club Policy....."

As the OP was the person on the spot it was my reasonable, but maybe misguided, assumption that it was Caravan Club Policy that was being invoked. Why wouldn't the OP believe the man?

I did not "tar us all with same brush" as you state. i have always held wardens in high regard and I don't think you will find a derogatory comment anywhere that I have made about them so I resent the implied criticism.If this proves to be someone other than the wardens then I will apologise on this thread to them for my statement.

However I still stand by my comments that there are other non lethal ways to be rid of the problem.

Who would be the first to contact the "ambulance chasers" I wonder when they broke a leg tripping over a mole run. Argue with the wardens because their grass pitch was likewise. Leave rural matters to rural people. Sorry could not hold back.

Things have moved on since back then fish, ambulance chasers are no longer & it’s not easy to get a pay out for silly things. The law takes into account we all need to accept responsibility for our actions👍🏻. Moles etc are part of the natural world. . .They dig & they throw up soil-it’s natural.

No need to apologise - it was inevitable😟.

It's time to let go of the 'only rural folk know about these matters' attitude, Fish.

About 3yrs ago one of local GPs we have known for years ,said to OH ,i will not be sorry to retire as we are gettng more patients coming to the surgery with medical problems we have not got any answer to 

when OH was attending the hospital clinic on Monday ,she mentioned to the consultant of the conversation she had had with our GP (he has now retired) the consultant was in agreement

She said one main theory it is possiblydown to  modern lifestyles

Of course moles have only inhabited planet earth for just over 33 million years so surely that should give them some rights not to be slaughtered by uncaring country folk.

Whenever I see mole traps I always put the boot in.  At one CL the owners had set up traps outside their property boundary.  Not only did I kick the traps but I told the owners.  My point was don’t say you have a lot of wildlife on the cl then try and kill moles, that’s sort of hypocritical 

Tinny, don’t be fooled by the ‘us rural folk’ spin. Some have a scorched Earth policy(literally on Moors) re wildlife as in-‘if it loses us money kill it’. Some have the attitude of working with the natural world but not many I’m afraid & some hide behind the ‘sportsperson’ name as if it’s sporting to shoot, catch, trap & use Dogs to help in the killing☹️

I'd be interested to know if Fisherman's 'leave rural matters to rural people' extends to the poisoning, trapping, shooting and killing of birds of prey by Gamekeepers?

Also, describing Old Hartley as rural is a stretch of the imagination!

Current update - spoken to Northumberland County Council Pest Control Officer - they do not trap moles, nor would they permit it on their land.  If the land outside the site is their land the CAMC have placed mole traps without their consent, and effectively broken the law.  

He also said you should never place mole traps where dogs could access them...many dogs are walked on that land and the CAMC land where the traps were sited.