Mole Traps

K9S4EVA replied on 28/09/2021 08:58

Posted on 28/09/2021 08:58

I was disgusted to find out that Caravan Club Policy is to trap and kill moles.

I saw a man setting mole traps along the external and internal perimeter hedge at the entrance to Old Hartley Club Site on Sunday 19 September 2021.

I enquired if he was setting mole traps and he said yes. I asked if that was ethical and humane. He said it was better than seeing mole hills. I said 'is it really?'. He said it was Caravan Club Policy.

As Members surely we have the right to decide whether we'd be happy seeing mole hills, or whether we'd prefer to trap and kill moles, sometimes not immediately killing them and leaving them to suffer.

I wonder why the Wardens can't just remove the erupted earth if it's deemed unsightly?

On top of this, what if a dog dug them up and got injured.  Many terriers and hounds would be very interested in digging where something like a trap has been buried.

Moles are not the enemy, they aerate soil and eat pests...see link below:

https://www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494935/9042554/Living+with+-+moles+-+formatted+%28V1.2%29+-+2017.pdf/61a0a5f6-b28e-c46e-042d-5b8fecf54207?t=1553171460360&download=true

I would like to see Members being given the opportunity to vote on such cruel practices and whether they feel their Club should continue with them.

In my opinion, if people think natural occurrences like mole hills are unsightly they should question why they want to go caravanning - isn't it getting out into nature, not being in pristine, bowling green like sites?

I'd be interested to hear other people's views on the subject.

RowenaBCAMC replied on 19/10/2021 16:32

Posted on 19/10/2021 16:32

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Extugger replied on 19/10/2021 19:14

Posted on 19/10/2021 12:05 by

I used to get occasional molehills in the rear lawn for a couple of years. I repaired as they appeared. If I could not contain I would personally choose to employ a member of BTMR (British Traditional Molecatchers Register) to set traps. 

Posted on 19/10/2021 19:14

I’ve “repaired” the molehills too but as you’ve probably seen from the photo, after a weekend away, I’ve come back to something resembling the Somme! Thank you for your comment but trapping is not an option I wish to pursue - Mrs ExT would sooner I were trapped and despatched before our “cute” little friends! I know they will eventually move on, so for now it’s the old upturned milk bottle plan, unless someone comes up with a better suggestion 👍

Fisherman replied on 20/10/2021 09:23

Posted on 20/10/2021 09:23

They will eventually move on once the food source has been devoured-earthworms. The downside is the earthworms would have been more beneficial to your soil than the moles. Your picture shows the result of their tunneling. Imagine that on the club site and the reaction of the majority of users. Comes back to the basics. Enjoy the site and countryside but leave management to those with full knowledge.

K9S4EVA replied on 20/10/2021 09:49

Posted on 20/10/2021 09:23 by Fisherman

They will eventually move on once the food source has been devoured-earthworms. The downside is the earthworms would have been more beneficial to your soil than the moles. Your picture shows the result of their tunneling. Imagine that on the club site and the reaction of the majority of users. Comes back to the basics. Enjoy the site and countryside but leave management to those with full knowledge.

Posted on 20/10/2021 09:49

Fisherman, unfortunately the response I received from the Club has been removed, but I'm sure you read it from your responses yesterday.

Anyway, I'd just like to clarify that the traps were set along the perimeter hedge of the entrance to the site, no where near any pitches.  If you look back at one of my first posts I have attached a photograph.

The response form the Wardens backs this up.  I won't quote word for word from the response I received as it may be removed, but it says that the traps were placed for two mole hills outside the site gate entrance, which is somewhere members walk past frequently and the hills could be a tripping hazard.

I also note you have never come back to Cornersteady with the reasons you feel the moles should have been trapped in a residential, sub urban location, accessed by public and pets, with no grazing cattle.  It would be good to receive the counter argument with the facts on the subject, not just the repeated mantra of leaving it to those who have the knowledge.  Furnish us with the knowledge please. 

 

 

JVB66 replied on 20/10/2021 09:59

Posted on 20/10/2021 09:23 by Fisherman

They will eventually move on once the food source has been devoured-earthworms. The downside is the earthworms would have been more beneficial to your soil than the moles. Your picture shows the result of their tunneling. Imagine that on the club site and the reaction of the majority of users. Comes back to the basics. Enjoy the site and countryside but leave management to those with full knowledge.

Posted on 20/10/2021 09:59

If you look back in history  it was and mostly even today, those of country folk origins who have done more to decimate the wildlife of this and other countries  in what they consider  "management?"undecided

Extugger replied on 20/10/2021 10:31

Posted on 20/10/2021 09:23 by Fisherman

They will eventually move on once the food source has been devoured-earthworms. The downside is the earthworms would have been more beneficial to your soil than the moles. Your picture shows the result of their tunneling. Imagine that on the club site and the reaction of the majority of users. Comes back to the basics. Enjoy the site and countryside but leave management to those with full knowledge.

Posted on 20/10/2021 10:31

 

Being a keen golfer and a playing member at different clubs over the years, it would be very easy indeed to eradicate the natural food source of the mole by spraying the lawns with chemicals. It is a practice which is common in many sports venues across the country, but as previously stated, I want rid of these beasts humanely and with no detriment to the environment, my pets or wildlife. I dont want to kill the earthworms as they're beneficial to the soil. and in the natural food chain, provide food for birds. Therefore your last sentence makes absolutely no sense whatsover; 'leave management to those with full knowledge'. It seems you're just writing to antagonise, with no knowledge and no answers. 

 

Fisherman replied on 20/10/2021 10:45

Posted on 20/10/2021 10:45

You would classify a club site as a commercial site and you would try to prevent the damage as shown in a previous picture here. The tapper would have looked for "travel runs", ie along the hedge and not "feeding runs" in the middle of the site. Thats probably the reasonable explanation for the siting of the traps. I acknowledge I did not see the actual site but experience steers me that way. Does that answer the question?

K9S4EVA replied on 20/10/2021 14:46

Posted on 20/10/2021 14:46

It explains the mechanics of mole trapping, but not the rationale when the 'offending' mole hills were outside the site, and the area is adjacent to the site car park.

However, the Wardens have provided us with the rationale haven't they...that the hills on the grassed area on the non-site side of the hedge were potential trip hazards to Club members who often walk by!

I've attached the photo again, for those who may not have seen it previously - not great, but perhaps helps?

 

Fisherman replied on 20/10/2021 16:11

Posted on 20/10/2021 16:11

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