World Athletics - Blighted by doping and cheating.

Yes your right fisherman   It's such a shame for all sport , I think it's all down to the evil MONEY , sponsorship ect even the Amateur's are at it , there trainers managers its never ending I t has really taken the Sparkle out of the Olympics for me they must strike and hit hard on all cheaters now !!  For the future of sport  

Just out of interest, how do you know that this Peaty chap is 'clean' then, Rocky?

Many athletes (including cyclists) were 'under the microscope of the testers' but managed to evade them easily enough and subsequently turned out to have been doping.

As I understand it, this chap managed to break his own record, twice, at just the right time - when he was in line for a gold medal.

Not saying anything one way or the other (I know nothing about him) but is that a remarkable coincidence?

This is the problem with doping and ineffective testing regimes (that allow someone to 'miss' three tests in a year and get away with it). Suddenly everyone's achievements come under suspicion.

Ian, I'm basing it on the fact it's so high profile now(Rio) that the testers are all over the Athletes like a rash. It would be insane for any high profile Athlete to now chance any enhancing substance. Plus I personally believe in the basic integrity of the Athletes. Their samples will be kept for many years & revisited as more sophisticated tests become available. I watched an ex swimmer being interviewed & heard how every part of an Athletes performance is micro-managed to get savings of 10ths of seconds. Awesome commitment from Coaches & Athletes.

Well done to the Paralympics Committee for banning Russia. Somebody at last standing up to bullies.

Well done to the Paralympics Committee for banning Russia. Somebody at last standing up to bullies.

Write your comments here...yes good news but don't forget they back peddled on there original decision regarding Russia  in the olympics   

But  Dont  forget,  Roobz,  That  the  ParaOlympic  Organisation  does  its  own  thing  !  Its  not  the  same  mob  as  the  I O C thankfully  !

Just out of interest, how do you know that this Peaty chap is 'clean' then, Rocky?

Many athletes (including cyclists) were 'under the microscope of the testers' but managed to evade them easily enough and subsequently turned out to have been doping.

As I understand it, this chap managed to break his own record, twice, at just the right time - when he was in line for a gold medal.

Not saying anything one way or the other (I know nothing about him) but is that a remarkable coincidence?

This is the problem with doping and ineffective testing regimes (that allow someone to 'miss' three tests in a year and get away with it). Suddenly everyone's achievements come under suspicion.

Ian, I'm basing it on the fact it's so high profile now(Rio) that the testers are all over the Athletes like a rash. It would be insane for any high profile Athlete to now chance any enhancing substance. Plus I personally believe in the basic integrity of the Athletes. Their samples will be kept for many years & revisited as more sophisticated tests become available. I watched an ex swimmer being interviewed & heard how every part of an Athletes performance is micro-managed to get savings of 10ths of seconds. Awesome commitment from Coaches & Athletes.

To give just one example.......Lance Armstrong was massively high profile (he made this swimming chap look like a spot on the horizon, in terms of profile).

He won the worlds biggest sporting event not once but seven times (the T de F makes an olympic swimming event look insignificant).

Much of doping is carried out during training, to build muscle strength etc. not ncessarily during competitions. Hence the importance of out-of-competition testing and not accepting excuses for missing tests.

LA was the master of micro-management and trained relentlessly. He was a great athlete and totally devoted to winning, even without the drugs. He invented the concept of 'marginal gains' before Team Sky was invented.

Every single doper who has been caught out has protested their innocence in the strongest of terms.....and they are almost always very plausable. 

I'm glad I have a simple attitude to these things Ian. I don't look for the most negative points I can find then delve deep into the minutiae. I prefer to trust it is what it is. If it transpires that there is more drug cheats-I'll deal with it. Until then I will carry on trusting to the integrity of the Athletes.

Bit of a 'head in the sand' attitude then, Rocky?

I only say these things because I really believed in Lance Armstrong and felt badly let down and disappointed when he turned out to be  doper.

No Ian, a bit of a 'not the same attitude as you', I'm not interested in arguing or getting into a protracted tit-for-tat 'posting war'. . . .Sorry. I'm out.

Yeah fine, I'm cool with that.....