Safe standing at sporting stadiums?

Safe standing is quite common at German league clubs, but has to be converted back to seating for their European games, so I assume the setup must be very flexible. 

Wouldn't tempt me, but if those who prefer to stand were all together and away from those who want to sit down, might be preferable for many people.

Talking safety issues, Barcelona's all seater stadium is a disaster waiting to happen, very wide, steep staircases with no handrails. Would never get a license to operate in the UK.

Safe standing has been installed at some grounds in Scotland. The one being used there, and proposed for use in EFL grounds in England is known as rail seating. The seats seem to be locked upright and removalble rails put in front. This way each individual seat gets its own rail, these are as far removed from the old crush barriers as it's possible to be. 

It was the Taylor Report following the Hillsborough disaster which led to the introduction of all seater stadia in the higher leagues. However just about all away supporters stand for 90 minutes which IMHO is infinitely more dangerous than the old standing terraces.

The Chairman of our club was asked about safe standing recently, and I believe that the Premier League are considering it. He said that if safe standing was allowed in one stand ( the one where people routinely stand now in contravention of the conditions of entry to the stadium) then no standing would be allowed in any other part of the stadium and that would be strictly enforced. Fans do also tend to stand in other areas of the ground near the away end.

Apologies for the rather lengthy post🤓

If  the  'No  Standing'  terms  of  a clubs  licence  are  flouted  then  that  licence  should  be  immediately  revoked  for  twelve  months.  If  people  cannot  comply  with  a  system  that  was  put  in  place  for  their  own  safety  then  the  grounds  would  be  better  and  safer  without  them.

I couldn't agree more Brian but if upwards of 4,000 idiots are standing,which is often the case, the conditions become unenforceable. 

Can you imagine what would happen if 30 or 40 stewards tried to get those people to sit down. It would be mayhem.

I'm not sure if the Local Authority would consider withdrawing the safety certificate where sadly unsafe standing has become the norm rather than the exception.

I read today that Shrewsbury Town are going to install rail seating, being still a League 1 side I imagine they are not subject to the requirement for an all seater stadium 

Roger,  I  did  not  say  the  Licence  for  a  STAND  should  be  revoked  in  cases  of  non-compliance  - I   said  the  CLUBS  licence.

No  need  for   hundreds  of  stewards,  just  a  simple  Tannoy  Announcement  thanking  the  clowns  for  getting  the  whole  ground  closed  down.  This  is  of  course  what  happened  often  in  the  past  when  serious  troubles  occurred.  X - number  of  matches  played  behind  Closed  Doors,  when  I  seem  to  recall  not  even  the  Press  were  allowed  in.  The  Clubs  in  the  top  two  tiers, where  No  Standing  applies,  would  not  be  punished  financially  since  the  Gate  Monies  lost  would  barely  touch  the  Insurance  demands.

Sorry Brian I misunderstood. The safety certificate applies to the whole ground and technically matches cannot take place without a current safety certificate. I agree that losing income from the match attendance would be insignificant compared with the television money for instance.

Just seen the news that safe standing is to be debated in parliament following a 100,000+ signature petition.

As  if  they  did  not  have  rather  more  important  things  to  occupy  their  tiny  little  minds 

Apparently if you can get over 100,000 signatures on a petition it has to be debated🤓