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DavidKlyne replied on 14/09/2021 12:52
Posted on 14/09/2021 07:42 by SteveLI think they both have similar attitudes. Lewis was equally dismissive of his roll in causing Max to crash at very high speed. At least Max’s rant could be put down to heat of the moment and sky high adrenaline levels. Although it would have been the decent thing to check on Lewis, he did mention he knew he was alright as he was trying to reverse out from underneath. As the stewards wording, with the exception of the drivers name, was the same in both incidents, it could be argued Max has been awarded a more severe penalty. 3 place grid, as against 10 seconds during a race in which he had knocked his opponent off the track and gone on to score lots of points.
Posted on 14/09/2021 12:52
Steve
I tend to agree with your last point. Although it looked horrific Lewis didn't end up in hospital unlike Max in the previous incident!!! They are both playing for high stakes so such things will happen, as they have in the past. My own view is that Lewis is a man under pressure. His car is clearly does not have the advantage it once did so he has to fight for every point. Next year he will have George Russell breathing down his exhaust pipe and in such circumstances we will see more of this.
JollyKernow replied on 24/09/2021 19:15
Posted on 24/09/2021 19:15
Evening,
It's still bugging me that Max didn't check on a fellow driver in a crash. Saying he knew he was ok because he was trying to reverse is rubbish in my opinion. Lewis could have had a head injury that made him behave strangely. I have a bit of a motorsport background as in the early 90's we were into motorcycle drag racing. Another high adrenaline sport that tested machinery and nerve. No matter what the stakes were if a competitor had an off (crashed) and you knew it you stopped as safely as possible to see if they were ok. Back then it was a known thing that you looked out for eachother, the staunchest rivals would forget points and prizes if it meant someone was possibly hurt. I know f1 is different as in the media is involved and there's megabucks at stake but to me it's a cold person that walks away from a big crash looking like he doesn't care.
JK
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DavidKlyne replied on 24/09/2021 20:34
Posted on 24/09/2021 20:34
JK
Perhaps you need to read this? https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/32263555/max-verstappen-hits-hypocrites-said-walked-away-lewis-hamilton-crash
David
JollyKernow replied on 24/09/2021 20:46
DavidKlyne replied on 24/09/2021 22:19
Posted on 24/09/2021 20:46 by JollyKernowNot quite the point I was trying to make DK. Anyone involved in motorsport would understand what I was saying. The footage showed Max walking away, what happened post race is immaterial.
JK
Posted on 24/09/2021 22:19
But Max didn't walk away from a lifeless body he walked away from watching a driver trying to reverse his car out of the situation so surely it was reasonable to conclude that Lewis was OK and perhaps, rather optimistically, trying to get back into the race?
David
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Whittakerr replied on 25/09/2021 19:13
Posted on 25/09/2021 19:13
Schoolboy error from Lewis in qualifying today. Lets hope this track offers some decent overtaking opportunities unlike the last couple of races.
Yet another example of the ridiculous FIA rules which effectively means Crashtappen gets away with causing the crash 2 weeks ago. Surely if a team decides to change an engine which means the driver has to start from the back of the grid, the penalties given for causing a crash should be carried over to the next race and not served concurrently.
A great day for McLaren and Williams.
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Whittakerr replied on 25/09/2021 19:18
Posted on 24/09/2021 20:34 by DavidKlyneJK
Perhaps you need to read this? https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/32263555/max-verstappen-hits-hypocrites-said-walked-away-lewis-hamilton-crash
David
DavidKlyne replied on 25/09/2021 21:31
Posted on 25/09/2021 19:18 by WhittakerrVery easy to make those comments once briefed my his PR team.
Whittakerr replied on 25/09/2021 22:33
Posted on 25/09/2021 22:33
In the circumstances it could have been quite dangerous for Max to go anywhere near Lewis's car.
Well, instead of Max checking on the wellbeing of a fellow driver, which he'd just parked his car on top of, Max decided to wonder on to a live race track despite the protestations of the marshals, which not only put himself in great danger but also other drivers and marshals, so any claims he didn't think it was safe to check on Lewis don't hold much water.
Also if Max genuinely thought Lewis was trying to reverse, why did he walk behind his car? Surly that was a dangerous thing to do.
SteveL replied on 25/09/2021 22:57
Posted on 25/09/2021 19:13 by WhittakerrSchoolboy error from Lewis in qualifying today. Lets hope this track offers some decent overtaking opportunities unlike the last couple of races.
Yet another example of the ridiculous FIA rules which effectively means Crashtappen gets away with causing the crash 2 weeks ago. Surely if a team decides to change an engine which means the driver has to start from the back of the grid, the penalties given for causing a crash should be carried over to the next race and not served concurrently.
A great day for McLaren and Williams.
Posted on 25/09/2021 22:57
I understood the need for the engine was as a result of a crash for which Lewis was responsible. Who then went on to score lots of championship points after serving a paltry 10 second penalty. Personally I don’t think either side is whiter than white. Both have used the situations they have found themselves in to their best advantage, as you would expect.
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