Formula One

cyberyacht replied on 28/03/2021 08:34

Posted on 28/03/2021 08:34

I know one swallow does not a summer make but, from yesterday's qualifying, it appears that it could all be a whole lot closer this year. Sad to see that Williams are still languishing as Tail End Charlie.

peedee replied on 20/07/2021 10:41

Posted on 20/07/2021 10:41

Yes Lewis had a little room on the inside but Verstappen had more than 2 car widths on the outside and could have easily avoided colliding with Lewis.

But Max had the racing line and the right of way, it was down to Lewis to avoid a collision. The panel of judges also includes ex F1 racing drivers and other F1 drivers certainly did not agree with Alonso or Leclerc's pont of view if that is what they expressed.. Surely Leclerc wasn't happy about having to take evasive action on the same corner!

In my eyes, Lewis has to win the championship in excess of 15 points to have any credibility now.

peedee

Whittakerr replied on 20/07/2021 11:37

Posted on 20/07/2021 11:37

Mercedes submitted evidence that Lewis was was more than half way alongside Verstappen which according to rules / guidance issued by the FIA (not in the public domain, but seen by Sky Sports commentators) made the corner his, therefore Verstappen should have gave way.

We have to remember that all this happened in a fraction of a second without a dozen different camera angles and slow motion replays. Both drivers made there decisions and have to stand by the consequences. Verstappen was out of the race and Lewis was given a penalty which he duly served.

Later in the race Leclerc did the right thing, he got out of the way of a faster car. He didnt complain about the move in the post race interviews but defended Lewis with his move on Max.

 PeeDee. Not sure if you posted a picture or not, all i can see is a white box where there would normally be a picture.

JVB66 replied on 20/07/2021 11:44

Posted on 20/07/2021 11:44

It is it seems quite common to blame others until the facts are given to see what really happened,undecided

It happens all the time when "breaking news" headlines are not so accurate when the true facts are seen in the cold light of daywink 

Vulcan replied on 20/07/2021 16:04

Posted on 20/07/2021 10:41 by peedee

Yes Lewis had a little room on the inside but Verstappen had more than 2 car widths on the outside and could have easily avoided colliding with Lewis.

But Max had the racing line and the right of way, it was down to Lewis to avoid a collision. The panel of judges also includes ex F1 racing drivers and other F1 drivers certainly did not agree with Alonso or Leclerc's pont of view if that is what they expressed.. Surely Leclerc wasn't happy about having to take evasive action on the same corner!

In my eyes, Lewis has to win the championship in excess of 15 points to have any credibility now.

peedee

Posted on 20/07/2021 16:04

It's a good job that panel were not sitting when Michael Schumacher won seven Formula One world championships.

DavidKlyne replied on 20/07/2021 16:12

Posted on 20/07/2021 16:12

I think we have to accept that the Race Stewards found Lewis to be at fault so therefore no blame can be laid at the door of Max. Both drivers are racing for the Drivers Championship so there is a lot at stake. Max has time on his side whereas Lewis does not so I think that played into situation. He so desperately wants that 8th world title to prove himself better than Michael Schumacher, that perhaps is clouding his judgement?  It is up to the following driver to pass the driver in front, not the other way round? The Stewards would have looked at it from every angle and also taken any evidence offered by the teams into account. 

JollyKernow replied on 20/07/2021 21:03

Posted on 20/07/2021 11:44 by JVB66

It is it seems quite common to blame others until the facts are given to see what really happened,undecided

It happens all the time when "breaking news" headlines are not so accurate when the true facts are seen in the cold light of daywink 

Posted on 20/07/2021 21:03

Evening

You obviously don't follow F1 John so why feel the need to comment? I watched the race 5 times both on sky and C4. My opinion as stated above. Things are very different in the sport with LH being a champion of diversity et al. Several times after a win he's come on the radio saying to the kids " you can do this". Didn't look good for the viewer at the time. Back in the day it would have been passed off as a just racing. There's more at stake here moving forward in the sport. LH is known for his finesse and never give up attitude, hardly ever to make a mistake. It was a brilliant win but at what cost to those young folks watching their idol making an unsafe move (according to the stewards)?

Max has proven himself to be overly aggressive at times and this season it was always going to be a clash at some point. Shame it was this gp.

JK

Whittakerr replied on 21/07/2021 10:10

Posted on 20/07/2021 16:04 by Vulcan

It's a good job that panel were not sitting when Michael Schumacher won seven Formula One world championships.

Posted on 21/07/2021 10:10

Or Seb Vettel in his prime!

cyberyacht replied on 21/07/2021 16:09

Posted on 21/07/2021 16:09

If the car positions had been reversed, is anyone going to tell me that Verstappen wouldn't have chanced his arm and dived in there in the hope of making the pass. Nanosecond judgement at 160 mph is what these people do. From my armchair viewpoint I tend to agree with David Coulthard that it was a "racing incident". The idea that LH deliberately put MV out of the race is ludicrous. Verstappen is known for some pretty aggressive positioning himself.

DavidKlyne replied on 21/07/2021 17:11

Posted on 21/07/2021 17:11

I think all drivers, including retired ones, will always think something that happens on track is "a racing incident" Mainly because they have all been there and I suspect been penalised!!! Some in the history of F1 have got away with a lot because of who they are and who they drive for!

I see that that Lewis has had two penalty points added to his Super Licence for the incident.

David

JVB66 replied on 21/07/2021 17:23

Posted on 20/07/2021 21:03 by JollyKernow

Evening

You obviously don't follow F1 John so why feel the need to comment? I watched the race 5 times both on sky and C4. My opinion as stated above. Things are very different in the sport with LH being a champion of diversity et al. Several times after a win he's come on the radio saying to the kids " you can do this". Didn't look good for the viewer at the time. Back in the day it would have been passed off as a just racing. There's more at stake here moving forward in the sport. LH is known for his finesse and never give up attitude, hardly ever to make a mistake. It was a brilliant win but at what cost to those young folks watching their idol making an unsafe move (according to the stewards)?

Max has proven himself to be overly aggressive at times and this season it was always going to be a clash at some point. Shame it was this gp.

JK

Posted on 21/07/2021 17:23

Did I mention formula one  ?i just noted that the media and on here there as usual was the blame game before it is investigated correctly. 

And as you should know in you position? do not jump to conclusions. 

 but it seems you have done just that undecided 

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