Formula One

Agreed

When it comes to sporting moves and champions, they do not match very often

Think of all the times in the passed few years that drivers have passed on corners with sporting drivers without collisions or forcing each other off track, non became champions, in Hamiltons case even team mates on occassions but very few times have passes taken place between champions when both stayed within white lines. None give up the corner and brake as late as possible which means either one or both go off track. Thats what makes them champions. Hamilton is just smarter and has the best car for many years. Verstappen has to take more chances just to stay in the race. Bottas is a sporting driver in the same car as Hamilton but never a champion. Rosberg only managed to compete for one season when he threw caution to the wind, but did not fancy another season.

After many years of watching fabulous F1 action, it seems pretty clear that when the more determined of drivers come up behind the lesser determined, the pass it usually fairly straightforward. 

Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Hamilton and now Verstappen.

I would also put Mansell in the same category, he did not bend very much either.

Wonder what todays technological coverage would show about passed manouveres.

BM

Interesting what you say about Ocon. I would not deny him is moment of glory but I imagine race control were pretty sure he wouldn't stay in the position gained in a few laps time which seems a pretty strange way of fairness of decisions? Without doubt Max wants to win this championship but I am sure his inner self is telling him that this won't be his only shot at it. More changes in regulations coming for next season and we never know until the first race of the season on what impact they make.

David

Given that all this stuff happens in microseconds, do any of the drivers really have time to think about the ramifications of the scenario other than "can I avoid" or "can I pass"

I believe they both admitted to doing exactly that, so the answer is clearly YES.

I must admit having done a quite a few track days and am comfortable driving over 100mph, when pushing flat out on the straights, with an instructor by my side, I am only able to focus on the track, not even able to check speedo or mirrors.

These two drivers are a class above the rest, even at nearly 200mph they still have time on a tight track to evaluate several things..

Perhaps I have this wrong, but what was the point of giving Vestappen those number of seconds penalty after the race finished when the stewards knew the time gaps? They made difference to the result overall. Or are those seconds to be carried forward to the next race and so be a proper penalty?

If a penalty was to be severe, it should be a grid place one for the next race. More importantly did Max get points on his racing license?

JK

Yes. Two points.

Looking forward to Sundays race, but how different it might have been.

Had Lewis not been permitted to unlap himself following the red flag in Turkey where he scored 10 points that he would not have achieved and the 25 points he scored following smashing Max off the track at Silverstone. Not sure if he got a penalty there or not, but Max also had to replace running gear for the next race which he received a penalty on the grid.

Take those points away and Max would already be champion Interesting that 2 crashes by Lewis could be the game changers.

I read somewhere that Channel Four will screen the race live of free to air TV, they have come to some arrangement with Sky. A bit like the good old days!!!

David

What does tomorrow look like then? I'm obviously a die hard teamLH but I think it will go the other way. Red Bull are good at this track, crashtappen won there last year. 

Good to see c4 have got it live. Got a crate of guinness in the fridge that's my Sunday sorted

JK