Wonderful news for Hillsborourgh

Rubytuesday replied on 26/04/2016 18:36

Posted on 26/04/2016 18:36

the family's must now feel elated good news all round 

maybe now they can all rest in peace 

moulesy replied on 02/05/2016 17:57

Posted on 02/05/2016 17:57

Surfer - you may well be right that in future private security organisations should be responsible for crowd control. But let's be clear about the case we're discussing - the behaviour of the fans was NOT responsible for any of what took place (unless you're challenging the decision of the ongest inquest in Brish legal history) - the decision of one man was almost entirely the reason for what happened. Evereyone accepts that many of the police foot soldiers did their best on the day and the force as a whole cannot be held to be at fault.

But let's not try re-writing history so soon after the victims' families have at last seen (at least partial) justice done.

Surfer replied on 02/05/2016 18:15

Posted on 02/05/2016 18:15

Surfer - you may well be right that in future private security organisations should be responsible for crowd control. But let's be clear about the case we're discussing - the behaviour of the fans was NOT responsible for any of what took place (unless you're challenging the decision of the ongest inquest in Brish legal history) - the decision of one man was almost entirely the reason for what happened. Evereyone accepts that many of the police foot soldiers did their best on the day and the force as a whole cannot be held to be at fault.

But let's not try re-writing history so soon after the victims' families have at last seen (at least partial) justice done.

I do disagree with the decision as I think it was a decision to appease a minority.  Was it for justice or was it for compensation?  

It is very tragic to lose a loved one, but it seems a minority of people or their lawyers did not want to accept the original decision of accidental death.  

Pity the SY police messed up by trying to cover up when they weren't to blame anyway as a police officer is not trained for crowd control!  Apparently similar has happened previously, but luckily no deaths.

Lesson learnt is that police shoudl not be used for crowd control at football matches!

Unfortunately this is going to now drag on for another couple of years as all the claims go in and the taxpayer coughs up.  

moulesy replied on 02/05/2016 18:37

Posted on 02/05/2016 18:37

Are you a Sun reader by any chance, Surfer? I'm amazed that anyone should presume to disagree with the verdict of the inquest jury which spent 2 years listening to evidence and some considerable time reaching their verdict. Unbelievable! Sad

Wherenext replied on 02/05/2016 19:58

Posted on 02/05/2016 19:58

I was on holiday in Cyprus at the time of Hillsborough and knew nothing for a few days of the tragedy. I then phoned my best friend, who was my best mate at my wedding, and someone who, along with 3 other good friends, used to follow LFC both home and away.

He told me that he was lucky as he was in the stands but watched the events unfold with horror as his brother had a ticket for Leppings Lane. He felt paralysed with fear as he knew it was something out of the ordinary going on. A few minutes into the match he saw his brother being hoisted into the stands above. He had to go to hospital but thankfully made a full recovery.

My friend never saw any fan abuse the services or urinate on anyone or pick pocket the dead. He just people trying to help. 

Believe me, there has never, ever been a sense of monetary compensation in the minds of those affected. They simply wanted Justice and accountability and the lies shown for what they were.

The bereaved families and friends have actually handled themselves with enormous dignity and to have to read the comments made by Surfer makes my blood boil. They are quite simply disgraceful and should be withdrawn.

Kennine replied on 02/05/2016 21:32

Posted on 02/05/2016 21:32

Are you a Sun reader by any chance, Surfer? I'm amazed that anyone should presume to disagree with the verdict of the inquest jury which spent 2 years listening to evidence and some considerable time reaching their verdict. Unbelievable! Sad

Write your comments here...Juries have not always come up with the right verdicts. There have been many many mistakes by jurys where justice has not been served.

K CoolYell

Kennine replied on 03/05/2016 07:52

Posted on 03/05/2016 07:52

Agreed, K, but are you suggesting that's the case here?

Write your comments here...This forum is not the place to discuss such a sensitive issue as what really happened in that dreadful day. 

K

Surfer replied on 03/05/2016 08:47

Posted on 03/05/2016 08:47

Agreed, K, but are you suggesting that's the case here?

Write your comments here...This forum is not the place to discuss such a sensitive issue as what really happened in that dreadful day. 

K

I agree with your sentiments which are spot on!

moulesy replied on 03/05/2016 09:37

Posted on 03/05/2016 09:37

Agreed, K, but are you suggesting that's the case here?

Write your comments here...This forum is not the place to discuss such a sensitive issue as what really happened in that dreadful day. 

K

I agree with your sentiments which are spot on!

In which case why did you comment at all, and in such a controversial way? Surely you must have been expecting some response?

Surfer replied on 03/05/2016 19:39

Posted on 03/05/2016 19:39

Agreed, K, but are you suggesting that's the case here?

Write your comments here...This forum is not the place to discuss such a sensitive issue as what really happened in that dreadful day. 

K

I agree with your sentiments which are spot on!

In which case why did you comment at all, and in such a controversial way? Surely you must have been expecting some response?

Why was an emotive post allowed to stay on the forum?  I have every right to defend the SY Police and any other police force if I feel blame has been unfairly allocated as after all, it was NOT the police that crushed the fans, but other fans that created the crush!  Yes I do have a transcript although it is a summary.

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