Wind power generation for off-gridding

tadhatter replied on 18/06/2019 13:36

Posted on 18/06/2019 13:36

As part of my desire to be more self-suffient, green, and go off grid, I purchased a portable solar panel and associated cables and inverter last year. We have thoroughly enjoyed our experiences with it so far although we have been caught short a couple of times when it comes to needing power - particualrly in the evenings. It's partly teething problems learning how much realistic energy I can use (perhaps baking a cake in a bread maker on solar power wasn't the smartest idea ;-)). It still frustrates me that the toilet is electric flush rather than manual. 

Therefore, a couple of months ago I started looking into wind turbines from photonicuniverse as they had nbeen so hlepful in my solar set up in order to increase my energy supply and especailly for times when light isn't at a premium. I was really enthusiastic until I thought about how I attach the turbine to a pole, any pole, and the thought of the size of the thing. And how would I drive a scoffold type pole into the ground and keep it stable?

Does anyone have any suggestions as to overcome this concern please? 

cyberyacht replied on 21/06/2019 07:51

Posted on 21/06/2019 07:51

Wind generators have diversified in design from the traditional fan with a vertical axis "baked bean tin with fins" type. Whether that would be more bat friendly, I wouldn't know.

Merve replied on 07/07/2019 18:35

Posted on 07/07/2019 18:35

Hi tadhatter. Being completely off grid these days, I too looked at this. It seemed the perfect answer for when the sun wasn’t shining. However the practical difficulties as mentioned in this thread soon became apparent. It has to be fairly high to catch any available wind, - when it’s blowing and then it has to blow at a certain speed, they are fairly large, attached the A frame of the van they can be noisy and the one thing that put me off was that they are not all that efficient. For a sailboat I can see that they are a good addition as they are all about wind.  So I have increased my solar array to 300w and changed my 2 x LA batteries for a Lithium. Baking a cake in a bread maker on Solar? Was it successful? What batteries do you have? I take my hat off to you for giving it a go but in the end you are on Battery and if the battery is a Lead Acid, then asking it for a heavy draw will damage it. Although the thought of a wind turbine is very attractive I think that you would be far better off increasing your solar array and, with Lithium batteries having a life of 20 yrs or so (properly installed) you could look at that as an alternative. If you are serious about off grid, I think you’ll find it a good investment.

mickysf replied on 07/07/2019 19:39

Posted on 07/07/2019 18:35 by Merve

Hi tadhatter. Being completely off grid these days, I too looked at this. It seemed the perfect answer for when the sun wasn’t shining. However the practical difficulties as mentioned in this thread soon became apparent. It has to be fairly high to catch any available wind, - when it’s blowing and then it has to blow at a certain speed, they are fairly large, attached the A frame of the van they can be noisy and the one thing that put me off was that they are not all that efficient. For a sailboat I can see that they are a good addition as they are all about wind.  So I have increased my solar array to 300w and changed my 2 x LA batteries for a Lithium. Baking a cake in a bread maker on Solar? Was it successful? What batteries do you have? I take my hat off to you for giving it a go but in the end you are on Battery and if the battery is a Lead Acid, then asking it for a heavy draw will damage it. Although the thought of a wind turbine is very attractive I think that you would be far better off increasing your solar array and, with Lithium batteries having a life of 20 yrs or so (properly installed) you could look at that as an alternative. If you are serious about off grid, I think you’ll find it a good investment.

Posted on 07/07/2019 19:39

20 years? Heaven knows what this aspect of the leisure industry we enjoy will look like in ten years let alone 20! Will those caravans as we know them today pulled by cars even be around ? May be the whole concept of caravanning will have changed significantly. Who knows?

Merve replied on 07/07/2019 21:17

Posted on 07/07/2019 19:39 by mickysf

20 years? Heaven knows what this aspect of the leisure industry we enjoy will look like in ten years let alone 20! Will those caravans as we know them today pulled by cars even be around ? May be the whole concept of caravanning will have changed significantly. Who knows?

Posted on 07/07/2019 21:17

Micky, There is no doubt what you say will come true in some way or another- technology is moving so fast that new discoveries are shaping the future virtually daily. In 20yrs  I don’t think I’ll be caravanning but my interest will remain in where technology is taking this hobby and I know I’ll be envious of the younger generation as they use the new technologies which we never had.  Who would have thought even 20 yrs ago we would have had what we have today. Generators very quickly going out of fashion and linking  up to the car because of flat batteries - all quite rare now. 

mickysf replied on 08/07/2019 05:52

Posted on 07/07/2019 21:17 by Merve

Micky, There is no doubt what you say will come true in some way or another- technology is moving so fast that new discoveries are shaping the future virtually daily. In 20yrs  I don’t think I’ll be caravanning but my interest will remain in where technology is taking this hobby and I know I’ll be envious of the younger generation as they use the new technologies which we never had.  Who would have thought even 20 yrs ago we would have had what we have today. Generators very quickly going out of fashion and linking  up to the car because of flat batteries - all quite rare now. 

Posted on 08/07/2019 05:52

But I haven't the foggiest so I can make no assumptions about what will be true. All I know is that things will most likely change and that change, as far as caravanning and the 'club' is concerned, may be significantly different to what we know now!

Just a thought, not a vision or a prediction, but how about a club with a network of sites on which are placed self contained, pre stocked 'pods'. Members use their little electric cars to visit areas of the country much as we do today staying in these pods. May be caravan parks and sites should start preparing for the like and trial such an idea. It may be the future and it may just be around that next corner, who knows?wink

Merve replied on 08/07/2019 18:27

Posted on 08/07/2019 05:52 by mickysf

But I haven't the foggiest so I can make no assumptions about what will be true. All I know is that things will most likely change and that change, as far as caravanning and the 'club' is concerned, may be significantly different to what we know now!

Just a thought, not a vision or a prediction, but how about a club with a network of sites on which are placed self contained, pre stocked 'pods'. Members use their little electric cars to visit areas of the country much as we do today staying in these pods. May be caravan parks and sites should start preparing for the like and trial such an idea. It may be the future and it may just be around that next corner, who knows?wink

Posted on 08/07/2019 18:27

I’m on site now using the present day technologies and there’s no wind!! That’s why Solar is my choice- there is always light and every day too. Interesting thoughts Micky- indeed, what will the future hold?? 

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