Waste Dumping and FlyTipping

Metheven replied on 11/10/2018 08:24

Posted on 11/10/2018 08:24

If you are a decent citizen and make every effort to dispose of waste responsibly but come up against obstacles, there is still no excuse to unscrupulously fly tip, If so then you were never a decent citizen to start with.

Decent citizens will go that extra mile to ensure it 'tips' where it should.

replied on 11/10/2018 08:35

Posted on 11/10/2018 07:33 by Extugger

A very valid point.

What do most of us do when we dispose of white goods, a large piece of furniture or a mattress? If it won't fit in the 'tug' we use a trailer, beg or borrow a van, only to be told by some Jobsworth in a dirty green vest at the local tip "You can't fetch that on 'ere mate - you need a permit" or "That trailers got too many wheels so you're a commercial outfit and they're not allowed on 'ere"

If we do our hardest as decent citizens to dispose of said items only to meet with such resistance, it's no wonder the unscrupulous fly tip

Posted on 11/10/2018 08:35

Two years ago my neighbour took his panel van motorhome to the tip with rubbish in the back including a fridge. It is obviously a motorhome with kitchen, dining area, built in shower toilet but the rear bed/seat fold back to sidewalls giving a load area. He was turned away as a van. He asked if he came back with car and trailer would that be OK. The reply was 'no trailers'. I was able to tell him that he could get a free book of 10 (?) tickets to permit him entry. 

If you don't know about it there can be a problem. When my F-I-L had died and we were emptying his home I would have had a similar problem and possibly twice times over. Fortunately I was aware. He lived in Oscroft near Tarvin, Cheshire where as eldest daughter and I were around 20 miles away in Wales. 

Eldest was able to organise tickets for Cheshire as executor with some faff and I for our areas of Wales.

I picked up eldest and drove 5 miles to collect the LWB Transit. 25 miles to Tarvin to load an already dismantled but heavy piano, redundant washer, mower bike etc. etc. and then 15 miles to a Cheshire HWRC site chosen for ease of unloading and skipping heavy items. 15 miles back to Oscroft, loaded stuff in van for eldest daughter and youngest who lives in Leigh. Drove 33 miles to Leigh, to gated alley behind youngest daughters and unloaded 2 sideboards, glass fronted book case and many items. 1 sideboard and bookcase up stairs! Freezer to kitchen etc. Collected old freezer and redundant furniture and then 40 miles back to Wales. Dropped of items for eldest and then to local tip with Youngest's stuff and some from eldest. Took van back and picked up fish and chips.

Without tickets for Cheshire waste and local waste it would have been a nightmare instead of just 7 or 8 hours graft. 

Bakers2 replied on 11/10/2018 08:42

Posted on 11/10/2018 08:42

We must be very lucky in our area regarding disposable of household waste from what I'm reading on this thread.

As far as I know no limit on visits to our tip. Very helpful staff smile, there is a height barrier and commercial restriction I believe. I think those are in place to ensure commercial folk aren't disposing on the cheap? But I don't know that for sure. We can phone the council and for a small fee, certainly less than £20, a smaller fee for one item, but more for 2nd and 3rd, but capped at about £20, the council will collect from the front of your property on a notified day. Certainly not a huge flytipping problem in our city area. Other parts of the county do get hit from time to time but tend to be commercial. 

We also have the dingy dingy men who take scrap metal. I've not pursue that method myself.

At present our brown bin, we have 2, are collected free of charge, fortnightly all year round. If necessary I'd happily pay a reasonable fee because transporting tree trimmings etc isn't easy and very time consuming, not to mention the fuel 😉.

TTDA I hope your local fly tipping is resolved quickly and you have the satisfaction of reading that the perpetrators are caught and punished.

JVB66 replied on 11/10/2018 08:56

Posted on 11/10/2018 08:56

We can use our amenity tips with a car for free as often as we want, but to have a trailer or van it requires a permit that is valid for twelve trips per year that is stamped on arrival ,the staff on one tip are very " hot"and stamp the permits with a date,two others seem more "relaxed"as we have only had ours stamped once this year ,but we now tend to use one of the more "busy"tipssurprised

replied on 11/10/2018 09:30

Posted on 11/10/2018 08:42 by Bakers2

We must be very lucky in our area regarding disposable of household waste from what I'm reading on this thread.

As far as I know no limit on visits to our tip. Very helpful staff smile, there is a height barrier and commercial restriction I believe. I think those are in place to ensure commercial folk aren't disposing on the cheap? But I don't know that for sure. We can phone the council and for a small fee, certainly less than £20, a smaller fee for one item, but more for 2nd and 3rd, but capped at about £20, the council will collect from the front of your property on a notified day. Certainly not a huge flytipping problem in our city area. Other parts of the county do get hit from time to time but tend to be commercial. 

We also have the dingy dingy men who take scrap metal. I've not pursue that method myself.

At present our brown bin, we have 2, are collected free of charge, fortnightly all year round. If necessary I'd happily pay a reasonable fee because transporting tree trimmings etc isn't easy and very time consuming, not to mention the fuel 😉.

TTDA I hope your local fly tipping is resolved quickly and you have the satisfaction of reading that the perpetrators are caught and punished.

Posted on 11/10/2018 09:30

At present our brown bin, we have 2, are collected free of charge, fortnightly all year round. If necessary I'd happily pay a reasonable fee because transporting tree trimmings etc isn't easy and very time consuming, not to mention the fuel 😉.

We pay £30 a year for brown bin emptying. There are 20 collections a year but we are typically away for half of them wink

 

brue replied on 11/10/2018 09:46

Posted on 11/10/2018 09:46

Our brown bin is for weekly food waste, this is free and it gets composted at high temperatures. I don't use it but it's a good facility. 

We tend to get fly tipping locally in field gates and also litter thrown out of car windows. In our village there is a "litter" pick once year to clear things up, it's not too bad but every walk I do along a road into the village I'll probably spot a can or take away carton. Far worse in a nearby lay by, sadly.

SteveL replied on 11/10/2018 11:11

Posted on 11/10/2018 11:11

At home we had to register our cars several years ago, as they were going to monitor usage and limit if excessive. However, to date they have not put in any number plate recognition, so I don't think they are actually doing any monitoring. Previously there was a permit required for a trailer, now they are allowed, although there is a very tight chicane at the entrance, which allows them to limit the size / keep a  check on what folk are bringing in.

Where my mum used to live in Bristol they brought in registration, backed by number plate recognition, several years ago. They were very accommodating though. I phoned them when we were clearing my mums house when she went into a nursing home. They said OK to register both mine and the BIL French number plate against her address. You had to provide certain info from the council tax bill and they said they might phone her to check. Explained they could not do this, as no longer in residence, plus she would not have understood in any event. They said not to worry just bring a copy of the council tax bill plus another with her address and present them at the office if flagged by the system.

In the event they were not required as we drove up to the entrance our number plates appeared on the screen with the words welcome and the barrier lifted.😀

brue replied on 11/10/2018 11:17

Posted on 11/10/2018 11:17

Same here, we here have to register trailers, everything is monitored but they are helpful too. We pay a fee for large items collected at the road side. We also have to pay an entrance fee at our alternative site. It seems to work well. We still see rubbish thrown on the roadside as we travel around, it does get traced sometimes.

Extugger replied on 11/10/2018 12:28

Posted on 11/10/2018 12:28

I don't understand why any additional charges are levied on a household, when surely your waste collection has been calculated in your Council Tax?

Anyway, whilst recently on a touring holiday in Cornwall I twice came across groups of young offenders who were litter picking. I don't know if this practice is carried out nationwide, but it is a system which I applaud.

Takethedogalong replied on 11/10/2018 13:29

Posted on 11/10/2018 13:29

The rubbish has been removed today, so that was quick, 24 hours from phoning. 

Most companies selling white goods will now collect your old washer/fridge/ freezer etc.. for a small fee. Often more convenient and cheaper than taking to tip yourself. Charities will also collect items in decent condition for those less fortunate as well. We had one collect an old but clean mattress and an armchair from us, very grateful they were, looking after those without money. We have in the past dismantled an old three seat settee. The metal was collected, the wood stoked our stove, the foam was cut up and used for dog bed pads and some and put into bin. Material was put into recycling. Building rubble is the worse, we put into sack and take to our tip in car.

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