The End of Analogue Phone Lines

DavidKlyne replied on 15/01/2021 12:49

Posted on 15/01/2021 12:49

Just thought I would flag up that Openreach (BT) intend to switch off analogue phone lines by 2025. I appreciate that a lot of people don't bother with home phone line as they can manage with their mobile phones. Landlines will switch over to VOIP which means they they will work through the Internet. How quite this will work for those that don't currently have an internet connection is being worked on but it may mean everyone in that position will get a minimum internet package which allows the phone to work. I am sure than many that this applies to will be older people so it will have to be sympathetically explain. An interesting article here on the subject End of Analogue Phones Thought it might be of interest.

David

eurortraveller replied on 16/01/2021 19:12

Posted on 16/01/2021 19:12

Explain it to me please.

We have no mobile signal in the house in this rural valley so we use a landline - it comes via a long stretch of copper wire. But the internet comes to us by copper wire too. It is fibre as far as the final green cabinet by the pub in the village a mile away, and then copper wire brings it though the woods, across the river, and up the field to us.  

Sorry to be a duffer, but which bit of copper wire will they cut off? How will it work out here? Will it be better ? 

JVB66 replied on 16/01/2021 19:22

Posted on 16/01/2021 19:22

I was talking to our local BT bod and asked the same and he says it would be done in the exchanges ,he expects the copper wires to be used for tinternet much as now but without the "problem"of phonesundecided

he also said they have yet to work out how it is going to be rolled out to those who have burgler alarms and several type of medical equipmentsurprised

JVB66 replied on 16/01/2021 19:32

Posted on 16/01/2021 19:12 by eurortraveller

Explain it to me please.

We have no mobile signal in the house in this rural valley so we use a landline - it comes via a long stretch of copper wire. But the internet comes to us by copper wire too. It is fibre as far as the final green cabinet by the pub in the village a mile away, and then copper wire brings it though the woods, across the river, and up the field to us.  

Sorry to be a duffer, but which bit of copper wire will they cut off? How will it work out here? Will it be better ? 

Posted on 16/01/2021 19:32

We are in a similar situation as mobile phone signal to EE Three and 02 are non existant inside properties in this area

eurortraveller replied on 16/01/2021 20:22

Posted on 16/01/2021 20:22

So under the proper new system when there is a thunderstorm and the electric power goes off (and out here it does) we will have no internet, no new VOI, no landline, still no moblile signal, and will not be able to plug in our old fashioned emergency phone on a wire into a BT socket to call for help from neighbours who live a mile away or phone 999 in an emergency.  Total isolation. Great news .

brue replied on 16/01/2021 20:28

Posted on 16/01/2021 20:28

No, I mentioned earlier on in this thread that the new system will have to provide one hour of emergency cover (Ofcom.)

DavidKlyne replied on 16/01/2021 20:50

Posted on 16/01/2021 18:33 by cyberyacht

Our landline developed a fault that the engineer couldn't find so switched us to a VOIP line. Trouble is, I used to switch off the router at night and when away in the MH. Lose the phone if I do that now.

Posted on 16/01/2021 20:50

We used to do the same but the trouble was that in the early days of ADSL every time you switched off the modem it would take time to recover the speed. I think the advice for fibre is also to leave them on, particularly now as we control our heating remotely. Up until the time Margaret had her heart operation I would go round pulling out plugs at night but during her recovery I just didn't have the time or inclination so now everything stays on although I do switch the sockets off on certain things.

David

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 16/01/2021 22:04

Posted on 16/01/2021 20:32 by eurortraveller

Thanks, some relief, but we get power cuts lasting far longer than one hour.

Posted on 16/01/2021 22:04

You have 4 years to move to the big smoke euroTπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ€·πŸ»‍♂️

SteveL replied on 16/01/2021 22:33

Posted on 16/01/2021 22:33

When we have had power cuts here, the nearby mobile phone masts have also gone down, so no mobile. Welcome to the 21st century, after an hour of power cut you will no longer be able to contact the emergency services if required.πŸ€” And that is considered progress.πŸ‘Ž

richardandros replied on 17/01/2021 06:39

Posted on 16/01/2021 19:12 by eurortraveller

Explain it to me please.

We have no mobile signal in the house in this rural valley so we use a landline - it comes via a long stretch of copper wire. But the internet comes to us by copper wire too. It is fibre as far as the final green cabinet by the pub in the village a mile away, and then copper wire brings it though the woods, across the river, and up the field to us.  

Sorry to be a duffer, but which bit of copper wire will they cut off? How will it work out here? Will it be better ? 

Posted on 17/01/2021 06:39

Everything is being replaced with fibre optic cable.  At the moment - even if you have fibre broadband, the chances are that it's fibre up to that junction box and then ordinary copper to your house - so the speeds aren't that high - especially with the recent upsurge in usage which is taking up all the bandwidth through the last bit of copper cable.

What is happening here is that, that last section of copper cable is being replaced with fibre optic and terminates outside our house, waiting for the engineers to connect every individual house.  Hence all the digging up of roads and the mayhem we have been experiencing for about the last six months.

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