Statins and Side Effects for Susiepops

replied on 08/04/2017 23:37

Posted on 08/04/2017 23:37

Susiepops asked me to repeat a post.

I was having 6 month blood tests as a result on being on blood pressure tablets. I was put on simvastatin early in 2013. A previous blood test showed no other problems and indeed my cholesterol level was not unduly high. A few months later a blood test showed elevated sugar levels and after additional tests I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. In September 2013 I had loss of most of the site in my right eye. Often a complication attributed to Diabetes and high blood pressure. For some reason the specialist did not think that was the cause but could offer no other explanation other than it can happen and we don't really know why but there is a 30% chance of the same happening with the other eye.

Over a period of time I developed walking difficulties. (My hips have not been good since before I was 55 but I still was able to walk 14 miles with a few stops to enjoy the scenery. Often walked 4 or 5 miles when I retired at 55.) This was not my hips though but I suspect that they somehow masked the symptoms. We met up with a friend in Exeter mid last year and as we walked up into town from the old dock area it was her at 82 years of age that left me standing. I had to keep stopping to rest and admire the views. December 2015 we went off to Southport with the caravan. We sited the caravan and after setting it up I walked a couple of hundred yards to the wardens office and had to stop a couple of times on the way. I stopped taking the statins, (might have stopped slightly earlier). In April 2016 my tablets for diabetes were reduced following a blood test and tablet review. In August I was told that I was no longer diabetic, Last blood test in October and repeated in November confirmed that my sugar levels were fine and my cholesterol level was 4. My walking has also improved - slowly.

Some seem fine on simvastatin. I however have enough problems with arthritis.

I know of others whose mobility has been affected and also have discussed it with my pharmacist who reckons that side effect is very common. Also he was aware of the fact that Statins can elevate blood glucose levels and it is also confirmed on the NHS website. Quite a few seem to have some stomach upset but many tablets can have similar effects.
 
Alan

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 09/04/2017 07:46

Posted on 09/04/2017 07:46

Good post ET, my experience is similar with statins. Due to high cholesterol I too was given them-'Atorvastatin' within a fortnight my muscles & joints ached to such an extent the pain had me almost hobbling around, my grip lessened to such a degree I couldn't do any logging. At that point I stopped taking them. Within a month I was back to my usual level of mobility without issues. At a follow up appt at the Docs I had the dose reduced-same thing happened, that time as soon as I realised what was happening I stopped taking them. I have refused all entreaties to continue the use of Statins. A life of minimal movement is no life at all for me. I have reduced my weight & cut out a lot of the Cholesterol inducing foods that were in my diet. I feel better to be in control of my health without the Statins. I too know of folk who use Statins with no or little problems. I also know of folk who like me have refused them after health/mobility issues.

replied on 09/04/2017 08:17

Posted on 09/04/2017 08:17

Just before that Christmas I had gone down to the local pub quiz with eldest daughter several times. Probably a quarter of a mile. Walking back I was stopping several times. 

The side effect with glucose levels and induced diabetes seems less known despite it being stated on NHS website. I had an episode a year ago where my vision blurred. I was admitted to a stroke ward overnight and various tests were done including a brain scan. I told the doctor in charge that I had, the day before had one of my BP tablets doubled and he said that doubling of that particular blood pressure tablet can cause the same effect. Within 12 hours my vision was normal. 

Because of this initial suspected TIA and my admission on the ward I was asked to attend the elderly clinic. That involved quarterly appointments, eye examinations, extended periods (1 day, 1 week, 2 weeks) on a heart monitor, ultrasound of heart and arteries. 

When I was discharged I saw a junior colleague of the chap that I had been seeing. She wanted me to go on statins again even though my cholesterol level was not high - the lower the better was the stance. When I mentioned the effect of statins that I had been previously she was aware of the fatigue effects and others but had never heard of it causing increased sugar levels and diabetes. I told her that my pharmacist was well aware of it and perhaps she should start by reading the NHS website where it was listed as a common effect.

Common side effects
Although side effects can vary between different statins, common side effects (which affect up to 1 in 10 people) include:

nosebleeds
sore throat
a runny or blocked nose (non-allergic rhinitis) 
headache 
feeling sick
problems with the digestive system, such as constipation,diarrhoea, indigestion or flatulence
muscle and joint pain (see below)
increased blood sugar level (hyperglycaemia)
an increased risk of diabetes

 

replied on 09/04/2017 08:57

Posted on 09/04/2017 08:57

I saw that late last night/this morning as we were out late. Thought I had best start a new thread JVB wink

DavidKlyne replied on 09/04/2017 09:56

Posted on 09/04/2017 09:56

Just over a year ago at my annual blood tests at the surgery I was told that my cholesterol  was high (6) and because of my age (70) I should go onto statins. My problem is that I suffer from Osteoarthritis in my knees and have already had a hip replaced as a result of the same problem. When I started taking statins I was also convinced they were having an adverse effect on me. I discussed it with my doctor but he convinced me to carry on. A year later my cholesterol had fallen to 3.5 and I am not sure the statins are making any discomfort I have any worse. We are, of course, all different in the way our bodies function and react to drugs. Margaret has taken statins for years because of her diabetes. She did initially have a problem but a change of brand seemed to have sorted that out. I suppose at the end of the day none of us know whether our lives will be saved by all the medications we take? Despite taking statins it didn't prevent Margaret needing a quadruple bypass operation. I think my advice would be is that if you can tolerate them keep taking them. I suppose there is no point taking something that robs you of a quality of life but you have to balance that against the possible alternative.

David

IanH replied on 09/04/2017 10:34

Posted on 09/04/2017 10:34

Doctors seem to be far too quick to prescribe medication, rather than recommend changes in life style that would overcome the diagnosed problem. More exercise to overcome high cholesterol is a classic.

This may be because they think that the patient simply won't change their lifestyle, or in some extreme cases there might be a reason that the patient cannot change their lifestyle.

But a far more worrying reason is that GP's are rewarded for treating certain conditions and the trigger for that reward is that the threshold for prescribing certain types of medication is passed. Statins or one such medication.

I see many clients who are taking a whole range of medication and often they cannot even remember what it's for.

I believe that people should get a regular review of their medication and ditch any that are no longer essential or any that might be causing unpleasant side effects.

The trouble is that with multiple medications, it isn't always easy to see which is the one doing more harm than good, because of 'masking' effects and 'combining' effects.

Take the absolute minimum (better still, none) is my policy.

replied on 09/04/2017 10:39

Posted on 09/04/2017 10:39

Certainly when I was put on statins it seemed to be 'High Blood pressure then take Statins as a preventative'. 

moulesy replied on 09/04/2017 10:51

Posted on 09/04/2017 10:51

I've been taking statins for some years but have recently stopped because I was getting abdominal pains which, despite going for scans, were unexplained. Since stopping taking them the pains have almost completely gone. I'd like an appointment to discuss it with a GP but when I phoned the surgery I was told the next available appointment, even just over the phone, was three weeks away! 

But if it was an emergency I can phone at 8am any morning to get an appointment within a couple of days! Well, it's not an emergency and I'm well aware of the pressure GPs are under nowadays. So, what to do? undecided 

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