Savings rates

IanH replied on 04/05/2016 20:08

Posted on 04/05/2016 20:08

With the change to banks and building societies now paying interest 'gross' rather than 'net'  i.e. with no deduction for tax, under the new tax rules.......has anyone else noticed that the meagre percentage paid has remained the same?

In other words, they have simply pocketed the tax that they used to deduct.

Halifax Bank have done this and I'm sure there will be others.

peedee replied on 06/05/2016 14:05

Posted on 06/05/2016 14:05

Invest some of your money in Premium bonds. No you don't get interest but with the steady winnings your annual savings increase by more than they would in a Building society.  Even winning between £25 - £75  every month is better. Never had a big win but regular small amounts are very welcome.

K  Smile

Ditto K, think I made 2.5 percent last year. Of course that does not mean the same for this year but what the hell you cannot do any better anywhere else.

peedee

IanH replied on 06/05/2016 20:57

Posted on 06/05/2016 20:57

Here's another example......if you have a Halifax Rewards account, you'll know that they pay £5 per month as a 'reward'.

You should also be aware that, at the end of the tax year, they send you a statement (a sort of P60) showing how much interest you've been paid. Last year, this showed a gross payment of £75 and a net payment of £60 (i.e. your £5 per month). So they were really paying you £6.25 per month less 20% tax, giving you the £5 per month net payment.

In the current tax year, all payments should be made gross i.e. with no tax deducted. But they are still paying £5 per month.

We queried this at a Halifax branch today and they tried to tell us that the payment is a 'reward' and not interest. This is patently nonsence, as demonstrated by the tax statements that they send out.

We intend to query this with Halifax, but I suspect they will say that they are now paying £5 gross per month.......i.e. only £4 per month net.

IanH replied on 07/05/2016 20:23

Posted on 07/05/2016 20:23

Mrs H rang them today and they told her that they are paying £5 per month net......despite the new rules that say that they have to pay interest gross.

Maybe they just don't want to change all their adverts and leaflets saying that they pay £5 per month? Even if it means breaking HMRC rules.

Bakers2 replied on 08/05/2016 08:00

Posted on 08/05/2016 08:00

Hmmm hadn't considered 'cash back' from Santander as interest. This comes on top of 3% interest on balances £3,000 - £20,000. Mind you there is a £5 charge per month which we've just about covered by cash back. It seems that trying to get a decent interest rate needs far more consideration than just the intetest rate! Its a real minefield with gross interest - the law if unintended consequence . Hopefully Money Box or Martin's Money Tips will enlighten us in the near future. Must dig out our statement and check the wording.

redface replied on 08/05/2016 23:36

Posted on 08/05/2016 23:36

Sorry Peedee you can do better - although there is a risk attached.  I did better over last 12 months by investing in a stocks and shares ISA, so far paid for a new (to me) tow car.

But risk isn't for everyone and I respect those who make a decision based on their knowledge and needs rather than mine.

Oneputt replied on 09/05/2016 07:38

Posted on 09/05/2016 07:38

Best investment to date for us is our solar panels, we get the higher rate per unit and receive a healthy non taxable returnHappy

Bakers2 replied on 09/05/2016 08:47

Posted on 09/05/2016 08:47

Checked out our annual statement from Santander interest is listed and cash back lusted separately so it would appear that doesn't count as interest. Think I'll make enquires anyway.

moulesy replied on 09/05/2016 09:23

Posted on 09/05/2016 09:23

We have a savings bond with Nationwide which pays monthly interet and checking this month's bank statement it does appear to have been paid correctly (ie gross). No problem there then. But what does concern me slightly is that are we all now expected to write to HMRC at the end of each year giving details of our untaxed interest earned? As I understand it, each individual has an allowance of £1000. Are they just going to take it on trust or do we all have to report it now?

peedee replied on 10/05/2016 16:55

Posted on 10/05/2016 16:55

Sorry Peedee you can do better - although there is a risk attached.  I did better over last 12 months by investing in a stocks and shares ISA, so far paid for a new (to me) tow car.

 

Ah but what are your chances of winning a million. I might only have a very very small chance but at least I have one.

peedee

KjellNN replied on 11/05/2016 20:53

Posted on 11/05/2016 20:53

Here's another example......if you have a Halifax Rewards account, you'll know that they pay £5 per month as a 'reward'.

You should also be aware that, at the end of the tax year, they send you a statement (a sort of P60) showing how much interest you've been paid. Last year, this showed a gross payment of £75 and a net payment of £60 (i.e. your £5 per month). So they were really paying you £6.25 per month less 20% tax, giving you the £5 per month net payment.

In the current tax year, all payments should be made gross i.e. with no tax deducted. But they are still paying £5 per month.

We queried this at a Halifax branch today and they tried to tell us that the payment is a 'reward' and not interest. This is patently nonsence, as demonstrated by the tax statements that they send out.

We intend to query this with Halifax, but I suspect they will say that they are now paying £5 gross per month.......i.e. only £4 per month net.

The "Reward" is an odd thing, but apparently they are correct in saying it is not interest, it's  been discussed on several forums.   So it looks like we will all just have to claim back the tax deducted later.

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