Safefill - Refillable Gas Cylinders

tadhatter replied on 18/06/2019 13:16

Posted on 18/06/2019 13:16

Last summer, as part of my ambition to do far more off-grid touring, I thought I'd invest* in Safefill. Perhaps my alarm belles should have been ringing when the place I went to go to purchase a canister was Brayford Leicsure and they only had one size available - the medium sized one - and lots of them! But nonetheless I coughed up my circa £160 for it and have them fill it up and carried on smug in the knowledge that I would soon be quids in in longer term savings.

However, for various personal reasons we haven't been able to get out in the caravan anything like as much as we had hoped since then - partly due to a job change and house move - we've only just got round to needing to re-fill it. I duly looked on Safefill's website to find stockists and discovered that there was only one in about a 10 mile radius. That would be ok if this garage would actaully allow me to refill it. Notices on their lpg pumps said that individual gas canisters were not be refilled here and before I even checked at the kiosk a forceful looking lady shouted at me saying that I couldn't fill that thing here!  However, after discussion she told me where, locally, I could get it sorted. I thanked her and went on to that location. Unfortunately she clearly mistook Safefill with standard Calor gas. I tried to call Safefill at this point only to hear that I couldn't leave a message as the mailbox was full! 

I proceeded to look for an alternative website to see where LPG was stocked and then proceeded to a couple of other locations, one which didn't actaully exist anynore and another also refused to let me fill my Safefill container. Having wasted 2 hours on a wild goose chase I decided to head home as I had work to do rather annoyed and frustrated.

So, can anyone else tell me if they'ved had simialr unhelpful experiences with Safefill or, more helpfully, let me know somewhere where I can get my cylinder refilled in the Beds/Herts/Bucks area.

Very much lool forward to hearing responses.

Cheers, 

Tim.

*for investment read expensive wasted of money!

replied on 23/06/2019 12:17

Posted on 23/06/2019 12:09 by Takethedogalong

We’ve survived 20 years of using LPG fillers JV. Sometimes different delivery nozzles can be a bit fiddly, but it isn’t difficult, or if done correctly, unsafe. Just a tad noisy when you release nozzle. No more unsafe than petrol or diesel. 

Toying with idea of selling our last LPG vehicle. Nothing to do with inability to get fuel. Fancy a change. Anyone up for a 4.0 litre fun tow car? 😁

Posted on 23/06/2019 12:17

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Oneputt replied on 23/06/2019 12:30

Posted on 23/06/2019 12:30

If our current van proves ok then after the warranty period I may well have a permanent filler system fitted.  To that end I wonder if we could convert the outside gas bbq point as the filler.

young thomas replied on 23/06/2019 13:45

Posted on 23/06/2019 12:30 by Oneputt

If our current van proves ok then after the warranty period I may well have a permanent filler system fitted.  To that end I wonder if we could convert the outside gas bbq point as the filler.

Posted on 23/06/2019 13:45

I posted earlier a picture of the latest small filler points, very discrete.

of course, the filler pipe will be high pressure and the hose will be fairly substantial, larger than your gas pipe, but you could make use of the same 'hole' if the BBQ wasn't needed....  

WK57ABF replied on 23/06/2019 19:58

Posted on 23/06/2019 19:58

Safefill Friendly : Garages that will actually fill your bottles.

Found a good one yesterday - Canal Garage LA7 7NX, a few hundred yards from junction 36 of the M6 - two lpg pumps and more than happy to fill Safefill cylinders.

Good location  - central for the English Lake District, the Western Dales and the North Pennines.

Johnny 57 and Rocky 2 buckets - If you could find the next two and I will find number four - the Uk will soon be covered.

John

 

 

 

Tirril replied on 23/06/2019 20:32

Posted on 23/06/2019 20:32

Tirril, your sticking valve? Can I first ask- are you over filling the cylinder? Please don’t be offended for me asking this but some have leaned on that button and continued to force liquid into the cylinder when the pump has changed tone and is screaming for the customer to stop! I know it takes some believing but according to SF it happens!! If you have 21lts in a cylinder that is supposed to take a maximum of 19.5 then something is wrong - Safefill have no control over idiots- that last comment is not directed at you!🤣🤣. Safefill have had some problems but they are very few. Other refill manufacturers have had similar problems, again, not many but it does happen. Have you rung Neil and told him of your problem? The worst scenario is the fitting of a new valve- cheaper that a complete new cylinder. I have one of the blue 20lt cylinders and have had no problem whatsoever.

 

Hi Merve,

Many thanks for your reply. I am touring now so a slight delay in coming back to you. My standard method of filling has been to keep the button pressed until it the pump auto stops. It could be that the pump is running a little above normal pressure. I will try releasing the button before it auto cuts out and see if that makes a difference. I use my local garage all the time so have not tested it on different pumps. Neil replied by email and said it was both functioning properly and safe. Just I don't recall having to free the valve in the early refills (from the same pump)

Regards

Tirril

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 23/06/2019 20:46

Posted on 23/06/2019 19:58 by WK57ABF

Safefill Friendly : Garages that will actually fill your bottles.

Found a good one yesterday - Canal Garage LA7 7NX, a few hundred yards from junction 36 of the M6 - two lpg pumps and more than happy to fill Safefill cylinders.

Good location  - central for the English Lake District, the Western Dales and the North Pennines.

Johnny 57 and Rocky 2 buckets - If you could find the next two and I will find number four - the Uk will soon be covered.

John

 

 

 

Posted on 23/06/2019 20:46

I don’t have any interest WK☹️. If I had the knowledge you have I’d be happy to share it for the common good. Merve has selflessly fought for everyone’s chance to have cheaper gas, you could do the same, alas you are not a Merve😕

WK57ABF replied on 23/06/2019 20:50

Posted on 23/06/2019 20:29 by Tinwheeler

Hope you’ve added it to the Sticky thread, WK57.👍🏻

Posted on 23/06/2019 20:50

No - haven't a clue how to do that - is it a task one of the moderators could do?

This topic is really important - the list compiled by Safefill is worthless.

John

WK57ABF replied on 23/06/2019 20:53

Posted on 23/06/2019 20:46 by Rocky 2 buckets

I don’t have any interest WK☹️. If I had the knowledge you have I’d be happy to share it for the common good. Merve has selflessly fought for everyone’s chance to have cheaper gas, you could do the same, alas you are not a Merve😕

Posted on 23/06/2019 20:53

Apologies Rocky - i thought you were a Safefill user.

John

Tinwheeler replied on 23/06/2019 20:55

Posted on 23/06/2019 20:50 by WK57ABF

No - haven't a clue how to do that - is it a task one of the moderators could do?

This topic is really important - the list compiled by Safefill is worthless.

John

Posted on 23/06/2019 20:55

No, it’s just a thread at the head of this section where people pool their knowledge.

Unfortunately, it’s a series of posts and would benefit from some clever person turning it into a spreadsheet or interactive map.

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/discussions/welcome-hobby-talk/tips-for-making-caravanning-touring-cheaper/lpg-gas-filling-stations/

PS. I’m not a Safefill user either but have an underslung gas tank so am in a similar position.

 

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