Prostate

Pippah45 replied on 20/01/2017 13:30

Posted on 20/01/2017 13:30

Since it is in the news today - I thought I would encourage the chaps to make sure they DO get checked out properly.  My brother had his annual medical a few months ago and he noticed there was no PSA test included in the results.  On questioning he was told "we didn't think it necessary" but he said he wanted one.  The results came back slightly elevated and he asked again what they were going to do - same response - only marginal nothing to worry about - being the man he is he wasn't satisfied and insisted on a biopsy.  It was cancer - hopefully caught early enough he has now had the operation.  But how many of you are happy with the "not necessary" or "at your age" etc etc.  I think we all need to stand up for ourselves - I am so glad that brother is on the ball so to speak - my other brother would not have followed up I suspect. 

Wherenext replied on 20/01/2017 19:14

Posted on 20/01/2017 19:14

Nice post Pippah. I have blood tests once every 3 months and I alway make sure PSA is included. They have to take the blood anyway. 

A lot of men are still too reticent.

nelliethehooker replied on 20/01/2017 21:30

Posted on 20/01/2017 21:30

I have to go for a medical check next week, which includes a blood test, so I will enquire about a PSA, provided of course that I remember to ask. Thanks for the heads up, Pippah.

Pippah45 replied on 21/01/2017 15:38

Posted on 21/01/2017 15:38

You are welcome NTH - just hope lots of chaps remember to get it checked properly - it's one of the easiest to cure if caught early. 

IanH replied on 21/01/2017 19:18

Posted on 21/01/2017 19:18

So how do you go about having this check done? It's nigh on impossible to get an appointment at our GP even if you're ill.

When I was in hospital a few years ago with a kydney stone ('bed blocking' because, despite going in at 6am, they never got around to doing a MRI scan untill about 4pm the next day).

While there, a young lady doctor (possibly a trainee) came and asked if I would mind if she put a finger up my bottom. Being the gent that I am, I naturally agreed. But I've never had any other test done.

Wherenext replied on 21/01/2017 19:54

Posted on 21/01/2017 19:54

Just ask your doctor for a blood test which will show the level of your PSA. If your doctor won't sanction it then tell them you're going to the toilet a lot more particularly at night and would like a blood test to check on your levels.

Pippah45 replied on 21/01/2017 20:04

Posted on 21/01/2017 20:04

I would have thought your surgery would run a test if you ask - but I see it's possible to get a kit for £15.99 to test at home - that website says men should test yearly after the age of 40 - so it's worth looking into for lots of you fellows.  You probably wouldn't need a doctor for the test - at your surgeries a phone call should tell you though?  

Test kits here but I know nothing about the company

http://www.stressnomore.co.uk/prostate-disorder-test-psa-prostate-specific-antigen-9035.html?gclid=CJKNkryA1NECFSsz0wodAToBVA

 

Grumblewagon replied on 21/01/2017 20:14

Posted on 21/01/2017 20:14

Dr Ablin, who discovered PSA, has gone to great lengths to explain that it on its own is NOT a test for cancer.  It was a test to see if the prostate gland had been removed successfully.  He has expressed  dismay that the test has been 'hijacked' for commercial purposes.

This has been set out in his book, "The Great Prostate Hoax: How Big Medicine Hijacked the Psa Test and Caused a Public Health Disaster"

When I have asked about the PSA test, it has always been the same response.  It is too unreliable (up to an 80% false positive) and unless there are very good reasons to suspect a problem, it is not offered.

Pippah45 replied on 21/01/2017 20:37

Posted on 21/01/2017 20:37

Uh Oh - not another of those - does Dr Ablin say what WILL help give an early diagnosis?  As I said in the OP my brother's medics wanted to ignore his elevated PSA but the biopsy he insisted on proved he had cancer.  I see in the news this week that an MRI scan is helpful but nobody is going do do that without lots of symptoms as there aren't enough people to operate those machines undecided

DavidKlyne replied on 21/01/2017 22:01

Posted on 21/01/2017 19:18 by IanH

So how do you go about having this check done? It's nigh on impossible to get an appointment at our GP even if you're ill.

When I was in hospital a few years ago with a kydney stone ('bed blocking' because, despite going in at 6am, they never got around to doing a MRI scan untill about 4pm the next day).

While there, a young lady doctor (possibly a trainee) came and asked if I would mind if she put a finger up my bottom. Being the gent that I am, I naturally agreed. But I've never had any other test done.

Posted on 21/01/2017 22:01

The test was to establish whether the Prostate was enlarged which is an indication that further tests might be required. I imagine that was not the case with you so no further action was considered necessary. Its incumbent us all to make sure we get the attention from our GP's that we need. Over a certain age you should have at least an annual check up which should include blood tests. If your surgery is not proactive in arranging such tests you need to speak to the Practice Manager to establish what the policy is. I just book my six and twelve monthly appointments online, usually a few weeks in advance of my visit.

David

handsj replied on 22/01/2017 14:00

Posted on 22/01/2017 14:00

A good friend of mine died of prostrate cancer last year. On his deathbed he said to me "make sure you get a regular PSA test done".

So I asked my GP, who said that yes it could be done but if it came back with a raised result then the way forward would be to have a biopsy. He said that this would be intrusive to the prostrate gland and carries a risk of causing impotence and incontinence. And even then, he said the results are not 100% accurate. 

So his advice was not to have regular PSA tests, but to just monitor function and only to go back if concerned. Meantime I just try not to think about it - typical male chicken lol.

 

 

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