Pro's and con's for buying an electric vehicle

cariadon replied on 12/01/2018 12:06

Posted on 12/01/2018 12:06

After reading the posts, I don't think the EV is suitable for me. They are advertised as an Urban vehicle, which rules me out.

I am sure that city / large town dwellers, where the air is most polluted will welcome them.

 

brue replied on 13/01/2018 18:34

Posted on 13/01/2018 17:42 by SteveL

I was thinking public charging stations Nav. Not home use. Malcolm was on about charging up at the dealers on the way to work. That could well be a 3 phase charger.

Posted on 13/01/2018 18:34

We were supplied with two charge cables, one for rapid and one for the slower charge. There are four types of charge, probably can be seen on the ecotricity electric highway site I mentioned previously. 

SteveL replied on 13/01/2018 19:12

Posted on 13/01/2018 18:34 by brue

We were supplied with two charge cables, one for rapid and one for the slower charge. There are four types of charge, probably can be seen on the ecotricity electric highway site I mentioned previously. 

Posted on 13/01/2018 19:12

Could not find any info on charger outputs on the ecotricity site. Well not without going further into it than I wanted. However the zap map sites says there are four charger types. See the photo below.  

I assume the one the Smart with the high capacity charge could make use of is the fast  at 7 - 22kW. However there is a rapid above this at 43 - 50kW. The mind boggles at that sort of charging capacity.😖

SELL replied on 14/01/2018 00:15

Posted on 14/01/2018 00:15

Wonder how long this free charge at the dealers will last as more EV are sold.

replied on 14/01/2018 01:59

Posted on 13/01/2018 14:11 by Yertiz

Are their charging points available 24 / 7 or just when the Dealer is open?

Only asking as it could be difficult to charge up if the Dealer is shut, say on a Sunday, for instance.

Posted on 14/01/2018 01:59

I think it might be just when the dealer is open. I might have to go elsewhere if it's late at night or on a Sunday. If no charging is available at such times, I might have to use the diesel powered Shogun to get back to Gatwick in the winter.

replied on 14/01/2018 02:04

Posted on 13/01/2018 12:34 by cyberyacht

So in five years or so there will be the capital expenditure of a replacement battery. I wonder how that skews the "cost of ownership" figures?

Posted on 14/01/2018 02:04

That's not what the salesman told me. He said it was guaranteed for 8 years. He didn't say anything about 52,000 miles.

replied on 14/01/2018 02:10

Posted on 13/01/2018 14:25 by

Indeed that is your situation Malcolm. Was discussing publicly available charging points in general.

I think your dealer said that the winter fully charged range could be up to 70 miles rather than up to 99miles. 

If so an 80% fast charge would give up to 80 miles in Summer and 56 miles in Winter presumably; with a 33 mile trip home that gives 23 miles for deliveries. Personally I would want a bit more reserve as well.

Posted on 14/01/2018 02:10

The home address in Worthing is only 6 miles from Lancing, EasyT, so if the battery is low when I finish my shift and no charging available or only slow charge, I can simply drive the Smart to the house address and swap over to the diesel Shogun for the journey back to Gatwick. Then next day, during dealer opening times, I can swap over again to take the Smart to the dealer for charging.

Yertiz replied on 14/01/2018 06:38

Posted on 14/01/2018 01:59 by

I think it might be just when the dealer is open. I might have to go elsewhere if it's late at night or on a Sunday. If no charging is available at such times, I might have to use the diesel powered Shogun to get back to Gatwick in the winter.

Posted on 14/01/2018 06:38

Surely, going elsewhere will mean you'll have to pay for using a different charging point? It won't be "free", will it?

Using the Shogun will also add to your overall outgoings too?

Maybe you would have been better off going for a hybrid instead of a fully electric, although it's too late now, I presume?

Perhaps you should ask your dealer about when the charging points would be available to you?

I appreciate that all this is a way off yet but you might want to check with the dealer as to when they are open, just so you know beforehand?

 

cyberyacht replied on 14/01/2018 08:18

Posted on 14/01/2018 08:18

In order to address pollution levels, the greatest need for EV is in areas of high density occupancy. Supplying charging points to multi-occupancy premises is going to be challenging, to say the least. Never mind uneven pavements, tripping over all those extension leads trailing all over the place will be tricky. wink

replied on 14/01/2018 08:47

Posted on 14/01/2018 06:38 by Yertiz

Surely, going elsewhere will mean you'll have to pay for using a different charging point? It won't be "free", will it?

Using the Shogun will also add to your overall outgoings too?

Maybe you would have been better off going for a hybrid instead of a fully electric, although it's too late now, I presume?

Perhaps you should ask your dealer about when the charging points would be available to you?

I appreciate that all this is a way off yet but you might want to check with the dealer as to when they are open, just so you know beforehand?

 

Posted on 14/01/2018 08:47

Yes, they may charge at some charging points but the cost will be a lot less than buying petrol especially as this will only happen occasionally. Most of the charging will be done either at the dealership or through our own outfit.

Yes, it will still cost me money to buy diesel for the Shogun but again it will be a reduced amount of usage only on those occasions where there is no other option. Getting back from work to the Worthing club site should not require any additional battery charge.

I don't think Smart do hybrids, so it will have to be all electric.

Yes, I'll check with the dealer about charging times available when I get delivery of it. One month has gone since the order was placed so only two to five months to go now. 

Yertiz replied on 14/01/2018 09:07

Posted on 14/01/2018 09:07

Good idea, better to be aware of any charging issues beforehand. Some might say that you should have asked before buying one!

There are other makes besides Smart cars, I suppose?

I don't know if you did a lot of research before making your choice?

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