Plastic Bottle Recycling

DavidKlyne replied on 28/03/2018 15:52

Posted on 28/03/2018 15:52

It seems that we are moving towards a system ( in England) whereby when you buy anything in a plastic bottle or can a deposit will be added to the purchase price and you will be expected to reclaim that deposit by returning the empties to the supermarket/designated place. Those of you who are familiar with travelling in Germany will be aware that this system has been in place for many years although rather interestingly the Government seem to be using Norway as an example. Perhaps Kj will have more info on this? I don't know about anyone else but I have mixed views on this system. As far as I am personally concerned every bottle/can I buy is always sent for recycling via my local council. So arguably I could be inconvenienced by a change of system although I am sure I could live with it. Will the system encourage those that currently are, shall we say, slapdash in their recycling habits to recycle? Councils across the Nation have quite complicated recycling setups, do these become redundant and new larger centres built instead? It is in all our interests to recycle but will it work. One positive I can see is that it might engage a new generation of youngsters to collect bottles and cans to earn a bit of pocket money as we used to do years ago with Corona bottles!!!!

David

jennyc replied on 30/03/2018 10:16

Posted on 30/03/2018 10:16

We’ve seen quite a few posts, indicating a can’t work, won’t work attitude to bottle deposits, despite the contrary evidence from some of our European neighbours. But conciounciously taking your own bottles back isn’t the whole story. Where thoughtless people have left bottles by the wayside, a legion of financially astute children, and even a few adults, are likely to collect the debris for its refund - as in the past. As someone who has involved themselves in local litter picks for several years, I think that I’ve seen it all - soiled nappies, bags full of kitchen waste, bottles of course, then spare wheels for cars, rubble, and shrubs and trees festooned with decaying dog poo bags, providing a revolting parody of satanic Christmas trees or dead birds, hung on fences as a deterrent by gamekeepers. 

Bakers2 replied on 30/03/2018 10:17

Posted on 30/03/2018 10:17

Our local authority recycle almost everything 😉. Householders separate cardboard and paper which alledgely gets a premium. Our plastic recycing includes every sort of recyclable plastic including those cartons which have fruit juice, custard etc in them.

We customers didn't ask for plastic packaging it was foisted upon us by manufacturers who wanted to save costs 😤

Is this deposit to get us to recycle or to reduce litter? Cynical me says it grabs headlines. If it's to up recycling levels will it be applied to EVERY plastic container things are supplied in? (From grapes to spreads washing liquids to sauces etc). If that's the case then I couldn't afford to loose the 'deposit/tax' on all my recycling so my local authority wouldn't get an income, I'm sure I wouldn't be alone in this, so I expect my council tax would rise too.

If it's to reduce litter it seems the single use plastic bag charge hasn't made a huge impact if you look at the roadsides of the country. 😢

Edit I am more than happy to recycle at home or away. I have no objection to returning bottles or taking litter home, I'm just pondering the result of unintended consequences. I too never cease to be amazed at what others consider it acceptable to leave behind them 😤

brue replied on 30/03/2018 10:26

Posted on 30/03/2018 10:26

It seems to be a diversion from the main problem of too much plastic everywhere.

DavidKlyne replied on 30/03/2018 10:34

Posted on 30/03/2018 10:34

I tend to think that simple solutions to problems are the most successful. What seems to be in the offing is a confusion of a system that we already have and is working well by those that buy into it. The question really is will we achieve higher recycling rates by a deposit system or spending a fraction of the money on educating those that need educating about recycling? Were we starting from scratch then a deposit system might well be worth considering. However what the suggested system is doing is putting yet another layer in place which is likely to confuse things. The Government needs to have a comprehensive recycling policy in place before making this sort of decision in my view.

David

Kennine replied on 30/03/2018 10:39

Posted on 30/03/2018 10:39

The plastic container manufacturers are the responsible ones. They have made a fortune out of producing non biodegradable products.  Production of those products should cease immediately and biodegradable products only should be used. 

The Plastic Container manufacturers should bear the cost of cleaning up the plastic waste both on land and in the sea.

Will it happen - I doubt it , nobody cares enough about the environment  to insist that it happens.

Kfrown

replied on 30/03/2018 10:44

Posted on 30/03/2018 10:44

Seems a stupid idea to duplicate existing recycling systems. I can see no significant effect on recycling and none on litter. 

brue replied on 30/03/2018 10:45

Posted on 30/03/2018 10:45

Looking at recent TV programmes about recycling it seems the machinery developed to sort and recognise certain types of plastic can't be programmed to recognise black containers. This seems to be an urgent issue that needs more development work. When you think of state of the art production lines with robotics etc recycling machinery is a poor relation at present.

replied on 30/03/2018 10:46

Posted on 30/03/2018 10:46

Simplest might be to ban black plastic trays in food and drink distribution

replied on 30/03/2018 10:57

Posted on 30/03/2018 10:57

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