Over 70 off the road

Rubytuesday replied on 09/07/2016 09:06

Posted on 09/07/2016 09:06

article in news this morning

70 and over should be off the road Surprised

younger  families fear they are ticking time bombs 

Kennine replied on 09/07/2016 17:31

Posted on 09/07/2016 17:31

found some stats from a commons commitee report from 2012 which makes interesting reading for those trying to castigate the older age groups without facts so here goes, Note these are taken from official government report not plucked out of thin air they concern road casualties in 2012 and are as follows

Of the 6,029 car drivers killed or seriously injured in 2012: 8% were aged 17 to 19; 25% were aged 20 to 29; 42% were aged 30 to 59; 9% were aged 60 to 69; and 13% were over 70.

Make of it what you will but i thought some actual figures may bring some parity to the debate.

 

Please do not think I am trying to rubbish your attempt to put forward some facts and figures, as you are only passing on the information that others have put together.  However I note that one age group, 17-19yrs represent only a 2 year span whereas another 30-59yrs represent a 29 year span and the others are grouped with similar disparity. Add to this, no data indicating the numbers of drivers in each group or the fact that it relates only to the those killed or seriously injured and not any causal factors and does not include all of the other accidents, not considered serious by whatever criteria has been appiled.

Then,  I can as you say, ‘Make of it what I will’.   

Thats the age group of the fatalities and it doesn't say what age the driver of the other vehicle was.  Thats the problem with statistics

Write your comments here...Maybe there was no other driver Oneput. The younger inexperienced drivers are very well represented in the "No other Vehicle Involved" daily news reports.. 

Smile

 

MJ730 replied on 09/07/2016 18:51

Posted on 09/07/2016 18:51

Having read some of the other threads on here if you stop over 70's driving half the club sites will be empty.

Mike 

Briang replied on 09/07/2016 19:06

Posted on 09/07/2016 19:06

Having read some of the other threads on here if you stop over 70's driving half the club sites will be empty.

Mike 

Or fullHappy

Oneputt replied on 09/07/2016 19:14

Posted on 09/07/2016 19:14

found some stats from a commons commitee report from 2012 which makes interesting reading for those trying to castigate the older age groups without facts so here goes, Note these are taken from official government report not plucked out of thin air they concern road casualties in 2012 and are as follows

Of the 6,029 car drivers killed or seriously injured in 2012: 8% were aged 17 to 19; 25% were aged 20 to 29; 42% were aged 30 to 59; 9% were aged 60 to 69; and 13% were over 70.

Make of it what you will but i thought some actual figures may bring some parity to the debate.

 

Please do not think I am trying to rubbish your attempt to put forward some facts and figures, as you are only passing on the information that others have put together.  However I note that one age group, 17-19yrs represent only a 2 year span whereas another 30-59yrs represent a 29 year span and the others are grouped with similar disparity. Add to this, no data indicating the numbers of drivers in each group or the fact that it relates only to the those killed or seriously injured and not any causal factors and does not include all of the other accidents, not considered serious by whatever criteria has been appiled.

Then,  I can as you say, ‘Make of it what I will’.   

Thats the age group of the fatalities and it doesn't say what age the driver of the other vehicle was.  Thats the problem with statistics

Write your comments here...Maybe there was no other driver Oneput. The younger inexperienced drivers are very well represented in the "No other Vehicle Involved" daily news reports.. 

Smile

 

Perhaps K but I can't see over 6000 fatalities caused without another vehicle driver involved.  

DEBSC replied on 09/07/2016 19:17

Posted on 09/07/2016 19:17

Not to generalise but recently I have witnessed two serious cases of dangerous overtaking, and no it wasn't me being overtaken. In both cases it was young women drivers, I have noticed lately that women, especially young women do tend to take chances. It often seems that we talk about young men being reckless behind the wheel but, in my experience women are equally as bad. Before everyone posts I am a female poster.

brue replied on 09/07/2016 19:48

Posted on 09/07/2016 19:48

Several of my elderly relatives drove into their late eighties when physical frailty and slower mental reactions took over. At that point their cars were used for very short runs to the shops, medical centre etc. Then they became dependent on the help and goodwill of others. Losing independence is a major turning point in people's lives and marks the start of declining years. Seventy years of age is nowhere near this point for most people.

cyberyacht replied on 09/07/2016 19:50

Posted on 09/07/2016 19:50

The trouble is that some perceive themselves as having the skills of Lewis Hamilton when they might be more accurately compared to Andy Hamilton.

JVB66 replied on 09/07/2016 20:05

Posted on 09/07/2016 20:05

DEBSC      We have a driving instructor lives near us ,and the one thing he says about new drivers is that young women seem to be the most agressive once they get a bit of "confidence" he seems to think that girls/young women need to "prove something",

Fisherman replied on 09/07/2016 20:14

Posted on 09/07/2016 20:14

Pension age will soon be 70.Are they saying that when you retire you also hand in your driving licence as you clear your desk.

KjellNN replied on 09/07/2016 20:59

Posted on 09/07/2016 20:59

Pretty sure there must be a huge variation in the age at which it is sensible for people to stop driving, but generally speaking we are all living longer and staying fit longer.

I will be 74 soon, my Dad died at 64 (stroke), my Mum at 98, hopefully I take after my Mum.

I keep active, do a lot of work around the house, have many interests, exercise my brain on a regular basis.  Why would anyone think I should have been stopped driving 4 years ago?

My children would be horrified at the suggestion!

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