One time plastic use

Oneputt replied on 23/08/2018 08:51

Posted on 23/08/2018 08:51

I'm sure there was a thread that discussed plastic but despite doing a search I can't find it, no surprise there then!

Heard yesterday that a company making 1 time use plastic items has just gone into receivership.  That was quick, it went from a turnover of £6 million in 2016/2017 to £1.5 million this financial year.  Unfortunately 25 people have lost their jobs.  

DavidKlyne replied on 24/08/2018 14:22

Posted on 23/08/2018 12:04 by cyberyacht

All that kerfuffle about plastic carrier bags too. I remember when carrier bags were made from strong paper - 100% recyclable and the trees from which they were produced helped the CO2 issue as well. Ah, but someone can make more money by screwing the planet and making it from plastic.

And don't even get me started on the 'fat cat' directors of Carillion from last nights TV. yell

Posted on 24/08/2018 14:22

That is not entirely true. A leading retail company was asked why it continued to offer plastic bags (5p charge) rather than changing over to paper. The answer was that paperbags use far more energy to produce than plastic (I was surprised by that) and if they are good quality printed bags they don't break down very quickly either. 

David

cyberyacht replied on 24/08/2018 17:11

Posted on 24/08/2018 17:11

Do they 'really' use that much more energy? Whilst energy consumption is part of the equation, it has to be viewed in the context of total environmental impact.

DavidKlyne replied on 24/08/2018 21:10

Posted on 24/08/2018 17:11 by cyberyacht

Do they 'really' use that much more energy? Whilst energy consumption is part of the equation, it has to be viewed in the context of total environmental impact.

Posted on 24/08/2018 21:10

I suppose it depends which way you look at it. Is cutting down trees which give us quite a lot of environmental protection whilst they are growing worse than making bags from recycled plastic? I shall try and find the article.

David

LeTouriste replied on 25/08/2018 11:13

Posted on 25/08/2018 11:13

A lot of forests are replanted along with cutting down trees so as to be sustainable.  But the government themselves are far from organised for recycling of waste.   for example, if they were, no matter where you lived in the country, the only thing that would change would be the day of collection.  The receptacles for waste, and what was or was not allowed, would be identical.  At the moment, even district councils within the same county can have widely differing arrangements.

redface replied on 28/08/2018 20:55

Posted on 28/08/2018 20:55

Hmm!

I can see that recycling and being green are two different matters.

I am by no means a 'greenie' but will nonetheless operate a composting section in my garden. I will even sort out plastic for the local council. However I draw the line at Tree preservation Orders (TPOs). My local council issues them at the drop of a hat with the result that I will no longer grow/permit to grow any tree that is a UK native one. I like my own choice of when, where and how old.

As for plastic I am far from convinced that the Council recycle enough.

Sadly we can but try and hope our successive generations do not look too unkindly upon us - but I doubt it.

brue replied on 14/10/2018 08:44

Posted on 24/08/2018 14:22 by DavidKlyne

That is not entirely true. A leading retail company was asked why it continued to offer plastic bags (5p charge) rather than changing over to paper. The answer was that paperbags use far more energy to produce than plastic (I was surprised by that) and if they are good quality printed bags they don't break down very quickly either. 

David

Posted on 14/10/2018 08:44

They've probably changed their minds by now, especially since the evidence of plastics in our oceans and water. I noticed that London is introducing more water fountains so that people can refill water bottles rather than purchase them for single use.

London's first new water fountains LINK

Maybe if people considered tap water was ok rather than long distance plastic packed spring water we might reduce plastic waste everywhere.

This seems like a step in the right direction, maybe plastic bag users will consider using alternatives (I'm a plastic bag user but I've started to replace them with fabric bags, hoping the fabric can be recycled at some point?)

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 14/10/2018 13:46

Posted on 24/08/2018 12:22 by Bakers2

Very interesting Tv programme on BBC4 last evening. Where they were excavating rubbish dumps from different times 1890s to 1980s. Time bombing ticking.

If you get a chance I'd suggest watching it very  interesting. I'll see if I can find the title 😉

Edit I did better than I expected here's the link The secret life of rubbish

Posted on 14/10/2018 13:46

Just watched it B2-thanks for the heads up, it was astounding👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻. From the ‘low’ of knowing our capital(London) is allowing an old dump site to pollute the Thames then the Oceans with all manner of pollutants including shredded plastics & asbestos. To the ‘up’ of discovering the partial DNA of over 3,000 unknown life forms living in/on the leechate that could potentially solve the plastics/landfill conundrum. Shockingly enlightening😊

brue replied on 15/10/2018 16:03

Posted on 15/10/2018 16:03

I was in an M&S café today, they were selling M&S re-usable drinks containers for £3, if used there will be a 25p reduction on drinks purchases. Not as nice as a cup and saucer or mug, but perfectly ok and a good reduction on a coffee or tea etc and useful as a travel container. smile

Navigateur replied on 15/10/2018 17:07

Posted on 15/10/2018 17:07

Maybe if people considered tap water was ok rather than long distance plastic packed spring water

I have been in London and tasted the tap water.  It is terrible compared to spring water - tastes as if it was been through the sewage works a couple of times - oh, wait - much of it has!

Extugger replied on 15/10/2018 17:36

Posted on 15/10/2018 17:07 by Navigateur

Maybe if people considered tap water was ok rather than long distance plastic packed spring water

I have been in London and tasted the tap water.  It is terrible compared to spring water - tastes as if it was been through the sewage works a couple of times - oh, wait - much of it has!

Posted on 15/10/2018 17:36

Absolutely agree. The water is disgusting, but then 10 years ago, I was told the drinking water had already been through 6 pairs of kidneys and that I was never further than 6' away from a rat! 

Not been back 😧

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