No bins on Club Site

lofty replied on 10/04/2022 21:18

Posted on 10/04/2022 21:18

Has anyone else experienced club sites not having bins out for you to use & asking you to take all your waste to the main bins in the area the wardens usually put it? This is in Wales if that helps? I do t this can be blamed on covid anymore, so don’t understand why this is happening? Can anyone shed any light on this?

brue replied on 14/04/2022 19:30

Posted on 14/04/2022 19:30

That sounds good Rowena, hope we'll see improved recycling and safer systems on all sites. smile

Wherenext replied on 14/04/2022 19:37

Posted on 14/04/2022 19:37

Long overdue but glad to see the club moving in the right direction now Rowena. Just as long as they don't follow one Independent site we have stayed at who expect you to take all rubbish off site. No bins at all!surprised

Thanks for your update.

 

lofty replied on 15/04/2022 07:59

Posted on 14/04/2022 17:32 by Rowena

The Club has and is reviewing how the Site Network manages their waste process on site to try and mitigate the number of bin bags it currently uses, reduce manual handling and also remove the danger from sharp objects stabbing staff.

Over the past two years we have trialled centralised waste points on some sites to understand the impact to both members and staff. Large bins have been placed in central location or at the exit at some well chosen sites, these bins are propped open so the member does not have to lift any heavy lids, for both for mixed recycling and general waste. Guests and members should be informed of the waste system on arrival by the team or via a site leaflet and if there are any concerns the team are always on hand to support.

Since we have been using this system on a few of our sites, we have saved thousands of plastic bags going into the waste stream (a real win for the environment), our recycling rates have increased and we have had no accidents with sharp objects stabbing the site teams. The reduction of manual handling has also been welcome, as depending on the site and the amount of waste left behind, the bin bags in the 'dust bins' can be exceptionally heavy.

We are still trialling these centralised areas, and we do appreciate there will be mixed feelings about them, but I am sure everyone will agree, if we can reduce the amount of waste we produce, it's a win for everyone.

Posted on 15/04/2022 07:59

I understand the sentiment & it’s great to save the environment & help staff safety, but since the club is now saving on hours of staff time, bins, fuel, bin bags etc. where is the reduction in cost to the members? Oh no there isn’t one! The club is very quick to put prices up when something costs them more, but never reduces the cost when something costs them less, except for VAT last year before someone makes the point (only because it was a legal requirement) So yet again the club is providing less convenience for its members at more of a cost to them, so we are still paying for a service that is no longer actually happening. At home bin liners haven’t been used for years & yet the have found a way to fulfil the service that I pay for & empty bins without me having to walk hundreds of meters with my rubbish & that’s when I am not on holiday trying to relax!

SteveL replied on 15/04/2022 08:16

Posted on 15/04/2022 07:59 by lofty

I understand the sentiment & it’s great to save the environment & help staff safety, but since the club is now saving on hours of staff time, bins, fuel, bin bags etc. where is the reduction in cost to the members? Oh no there isn’t one! The club is very quick to put prices up when something costs them more, but never reduces the cost when something costs them less, except for VAT last year before someone makes the point (only because it was a legal requirement) So yet again the club is providing less convenience for its members at more of a cost to them, so we are still paying for a service that is no longer actually happening. At home bin liners haven’t been used for years & yet the have found a way to fulfil the service that I pay for & empty bins without me having to walk hundreds of meters with my rubbish & that’s when I am not on holiday trying to relax!

Posted on 15/04/2022 08:16

(only because it was a legal requirement)

It wasn’t!

SteveL replied on 15/04/2022 08:21

Posted on 15/04/2022 07:59 by lofty

I understand the sentiment & it’s great to save the environment & help staff safety, but since the club is now saving on hours of staff time, bins, fuel, bin bags etc. where is the reduction in cost to the members? Oh no there isn’t one! The club is very quick to put prices up when something costs them more, but never reduces the cost when something costs them less, except for VAT last year before someone makes the point (only because it was a legal requirement) So yet again the club is providing less convenience for its members at more of a cost to them, so we are still paying for a service that is no longer actually happening. At home bin liners haven’t been used for years & yet the have found a way to fulfil the service that I pay for & empty bins without me having to walk hundreds of meters with my rubbish & that’s when I am not on holiday trying to relax!

Posted on 15/04/2022 08:21

At home bin liners haven’t been used for years & yet the have found a way to fulfil the service that I pay for & empty bins


If your refuse collection is anything like ours,  you wheel the bin to the roadside and it is picked up by a hydraulic lift and emptied into a sealed wagon. It would be fairly difficult to replicate anything like that on site without major expense.

JVB66 replied on 15/04/2022 08:23

Posted on 15/04/2022 07:59 by lofty

I understand the sentiment & it’s great to save the environment & help staff safety, but since the club is now saving on hours of staff time, bins, fuel, bin bags etc. where is the reduction in cost to the members? Oh no there isn’t one! The club is very quick to put prices up when something costs them more, but never reduces the cost when something costs them less, except for VAT last year before someone makes the point (only because it was a legal requirement) So yet again the club is providing less convenience for its members at more of a cost to them, so we are still paying for a service that is no longer actually happening. At home bin liners haven’t been used for years & yet the have found a way to fulfil the service that I pay for & empty bins without me having to walk hundreds of meters with my rubbish & that’s when I am not on holiday trying to relax!

Posted on 15/04/2022 08:23

The Vat reduction was nit a legal requirement and many organisations dis not reduce their prices in line with the Vat reduction 

As for bin liners not required ?there is a good income for companies that pressure wash bins where people. so not use bin liners

JVB66 replied on 15/04/2022 08:39

Posted on 15/04/2022 08:30 by ADP1963

JVB

      Are you up in Scotland ?................those pesky nit's are early.  wink

Posted on 15/04/2022 08:39

To much Ello ellocool

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joanie replied on 15/04/2022 09:10

Posted on 14/04/2022 17:32 by Rowena

The Club has and is reviewing how the Site Network manages their waste process on site to try and mitigate the number of bin bags it currently uses, reduce manual handling and also remove the danger from sharp objects stabbing staff.

Over the past two years we have trialled centralised waste points on some sites to understand the impact to both members and staff. Large bins have been placed in central location or at the exit at some well chosen sites, these bins are propped open so the member does not have to lift any heavy lids, for both for mixed recycling and general waste. Guests and members should be informed of the waste system on arrival by the team or via a site leaflet and if there are any concerns the team are always on hand to support.

Since we have been using this system on a few of our sites, we have saved thousands of plastic bags going into the waste stream (a real win for the environment), our recycling rates have increased and we have had no accidents with sharp objects stabbing the site teams. The reduction of manual handling has also been welcome, as depending on the site and the amount of waste left behind, the bin bags in the 'dust bins' can be exceptionally heavy.

We are still trialling these centralised areas, and we do appreciate there will be mixed feelings about them, but I am sure everyone will agree, if we can reduce the amount of waste we produce, it's a win for everyone.

Posted on 15/04/2022 09:10

2nd paragraph, 3rd line reads ; these bins are propped open  so that the member does not have to lift any heavy lids.

I wrote to head office last year complaining that it was near impossible to lift the lids, so we shall see if they are propped open this year.

 

 

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