New Highway Code Rules

mickysf replied on 24/01/2022 07:26

Posted on 24/01/2022 07:26

Good to see changes making it safer for all users about to come into force! Particularly for pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders.👍

Twos more then one replied on 30/01/2022 15:16

Posted on 29/01/2022 22:04 by allanandjean

Like others I am a “leisure cyclist” but due to the nature of our local roads, unlit, muddy, blind bends and with a 60MPH limit, I prefer to cycle off road.

Despite this I always wear hi-viz and have lights front and rear.

Yesterday at app 1730, on an unlit 60 limit road, I came across what appeared to be three cyclists, none of whom had any hi-viz and only two had lights, with the outermost having neither.

I could see it was clear so moved across to the opposite side and passed-to find another cyclist, again with no hi-viz or rear light, app 10-15 yds ahead.

So, as far as common sense and courtesy go this bunch seemed have neither.

 

 

Posted on 30/01/2022 15:16

How many cars are painted in Hi Vis
The hierarchy is correct 
Maybe the reason  i have no problem with passing cyclist, and horse is i have always  given space as i passed them, and if it meant waiting ,then i have waited 
I know that if i hit a pedestrian,a cyclist or a horse with my vehicle ,it is them that will come worse off. so i have always done what the new Code requires 
If a cyclist is in the position they show in the Highway code. and you have not seem them, then you should not been driving a vehicle 
As a pedestrian a number of times i have had word with drivers, who did not know,or said they did not , that a pedestrian  had right of way at a junction. if the pedestrian was crossing before the car go to the junction,I have always given way , no big decal 
it is time that cars where put in there place, and responsibility place on the driver of vehicles for the safety of those more vulnerable 

Navigateur replied on 30/01/2022 15:20

Posted on 30/01/2022 15:20

I would have thought that in this heirarchy it would be incumbent on those at greatest risk to take the greatest care about their own safety.

Twos more then one replied on 30/01/2022 15:58

Posted on 30/01/2022 15:20 by Navigateur

I would have thought that in this heirarchy it would be incumbent on those at greatest risk to take the greatest care about their own safety.

Posted on 30/01/2022 15:58

And that's been the  problem 
That;s like saying the person with a toy gun ,should take more care, then a person with a real gun

mickysf replied on 30/01/2022 21:24

Posted on 30/01/2022 21:24

Of all the changes this to me is the most controversial and most commonsensical! What I don't understand is the use of language-‘should give way’ as opposed to ‘must give way’! What does that mean to the hard of understanding like me?

Tinwheeler replied on 30/01/2022 21:34

Posted on 30/01/2022 21:24 by mickysf

Of all the changes this to me is the most controversial and most commonsensical! What I don't understand is the use of language-‘should give way’ as opposed to ‘must give way’! What does that mean to the hard of understanding like me?

Posted on 30/01/2022 21:34

When used in the Highway Code, 'must' means it’s law while 'should' is not law but can be used as evidence against you in the event of a prosecution.

allanandjean replied on 30/01/2022 22:08

Posted on 30/01/2022 15:16 by Twos more then one

How many cars are painted in Hi Vis
The hierarchy is correct 
Maybe the reason  i have no problem with passing cyclist, and horse is i have always  given space as i passed them, and if it meant waiting ,then i have waited 
I know that if i hit a pedestrian,a cyclist or a horse with my vehicle ,it is them that will come worse off. so i have always done what the new Code requires 
If a cyclist is in the position they show in the Highway code. and you have not seem them, then you should not been driving a vehicle 
As a pedestrian a number of times i have had word with drivers, who did not know,or said they did not , that a pedestrian  had right of way at a junction. if the pedestrian was crossing before the car go to the junction,I have always given way , no big decal 
it is time that cars where put in there place, and responsibility place on the driver of vehicles for the safety of those more vulnerable 

Posted on 30/01/2022 22:08

You seem to have, by design or accident, read into my post things that are not there.

 

mickysf replied on 31/01/2022 09:15

Posted on 30/01/2022 21:34 by Tinwheeler

When used in the Highway Code, 'must' means it’s law while 'should' is not law but can be used as evidence against you in the event of a prosecution.

Posted on 31/01/2022 09:15

Is this law deliberately grey?  Is this rule merely guidance? Clarity is a must as for as the Highway Code is concerned in my opinion. Shouldn’t it be devoid of ambiguity and personal interpretation?

Tinwheeler replied on 31/01/2022 09:22

Posted on 31/01/2022 09:15 by mickysf

Is this law deliberately grey?  Is this rule merely guidance? Clarity is a must as for as the Highway Code is concerned in my opinion. Shouldn’t it be devoid of ambiguity and personal interpretation?

Posted on 31/01/2022 09:22

See my post with link and screenshot in the other thread, Micky.

mickysf replied on 31/01/2022 09:36

Posted on 31/01/2022 09:22 by Tinwheeler

See my post with link and screenshot in the other thread, Micky.

Posted on 31/01/2022 09:36

Thanks TW but I’m still non the wiser! There appears to be an infinite number of shades of grey when it comes to helping the hard of understanding! Oh, I count myself in that number!🤪👍

Tinwheeler replied on 31/01/2022 10:03

Posted on 31/01/2022 09:36 by mickysf

Thanks TW but I’m still non the wiser! There appears to be an infinite number of shades of grey when it comes to helping the hard of understanding! Oh, I count myself in that number!🤪👍

Posted on 31/01/2022 10:03

Isn't that the way of Govt documents? Even the latest covid related stuff is contradictory. It's no wonder some of us struggle.

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