Is it smart enough?

neveramsure replied on 28/05/2021 10:01

Posted on 28/05/2021 10:01

Apologies if this topic has been covered in the past but after traveling on the M6 and M5 last weekend it looks like most of it will soon be converted into a “smart motorway”.undecided

 I suppose it is something we must all get used to but for now it feels unnerving enough while solo never mind those of you who are towing a caravan.surprised

Having a small emergency lay-by every 1.6 miles and relying on other drivers to react to the red lane closure X does not fill me with confidence.

What do you think?  

JVB66 replied on 28/05/2021 16:41

Posted on 28/05/2021 16:41

The worst "not so smart "motorway in my opinion is the M3 at the M25 end , the junctions are so close together and is very busy, so vehicles are for ever having to keep moving into the "middle" lane which is the road we learnt to follow the knowledgeable HGVs drivers and stick to the middle lane

allanandjean replied on 28/05/2021 17:17

Posted on 28/05/2021 17:17

Travelled up from  Cornwall to near Northampton, via Redditch, yesterday.

Staying at a hotel near J15 of the M1, great for Amazon van spotters, and was curious about the seemingly 100s of vans, and huge numbers of heavy plant, plus road closures.

So had a look on Google to find the heavy plant is on anew rail interchange site that’s creating 5 million square feet of storage at a cost of £107 million.

The hundreds of vans are connected with the creation of an ALR-no me neither-which is an All Lanes Running, or Smart Motorway along 23 miles of the M1.

The cost? £373 million. For that money I would expect far better than Smart.

LLM replied on 28/05/2021 17:30

Posted on 28/05/2021 17:30

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JVB66 replied on 28/05/2021 18:56

Posted on 28/05/2021 17:30 by LLM
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Posted on 28/05/2021 18:56

On smart? motorways it is the smart thing to do  you should try it ,so much less stressful when behind a Knight of the road driving HGV doing 60mph;than forever having to change lanes  cool

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Navigateur replied on 28/05/2021 23:07

Posted on 28/05/2021 23:07

Jour­ney reli­a­bil­ity has improved by 22%
Per­sonal injury acci­dents have been reduced by more than half

Does anyone have to hand the statistics for the same period of time for "dumb" motoways?  Hmm.  I thought not.  They are not saying.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 28/05/2021 23:19

Posted on 28/05/2021 23:07 by Navigateur

Jour­ney reli­a­bil­ity has improved by 22%
Per­sonal injury acci­dents have been reduced by more than half

Does anyone have to hand the statistics for the same period of time for "dumb" motoways?  Hmm.  I thought not.  They are not saying.

Posted on 28/05/2021 23:19

I found this🤷🏻‍♂️-

Takethedogalong replied on 29/05/2021 10:38

Posted on 29/05/2021 10:38

Possibly Guardian Nav. Looks very like their type face.

Its a photograph of the M1 near us where two people died, prompted the inquiry. 

Edit, it is the Guardian. Here is link to whole article, read it all, and you see where the issues are, namely doing it on the cheap and not following approved distances for refuges and staffing of cameras. This is a very, very busy stretch of motorway, with lots of junctions.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/22/are-smart-motorways-safe

 

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 30/05/2021 07:42

Posted on 29/05/2021 09:24 by Navigateur

Is there a link, Rocky?

Posted on 30/05/2021 07:42

I just punched in ‘smart motorways’ & that was one of the things that came up. From what I read it seemed smart M’s are good for traffic flow but do take lives. Anything that brings fast trucks closer to broken down & static vehicles can’t be good☹️

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