In-car breathalysers

allanandjean replied on 21/11/2019 09:30

Posted on 21/11/2019 09:30

Just seen this on the RAC website;

Breathalysers must be able to be fitted into all new cars from 2022 following a landmark decision by the European Council.
The technology, that could prevent drink-drivers from starting their engines, was approved in March but has only just been rubber-stamped by European officials last week.

The UK’s position is yet to be confirmed, but the current Government has previously said it will mirror European road safety rules post-Brexit.

Cars made before 2022 will have to comply with the new rules by 2024. Road safety charity Brake has labelled the move the “biggest leap forward for road safety this century”.

 

JVB66 replied on 21/11/2019 09:34

Posted on 21/11/2019 09:34

It will need to also cover drugs as that is it seems as much if not more of a problem

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Posted on 21/11/2019 09:34 by JVB66

It will need to also cover drugs as that is it seems as much if not more of a problem

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Rocky 2 buckets replied on 21/11/2019 09:56

Posted on 21/11/2019 09:56

Excellent idea(on paper) but the execution of it could throw up anomaly’s for sure. Sledgehammer to crack a nut situation I think. I’m not a fan of taking choice away from folk. Plus if we don’t adopt will that then impact on Brits driving abroad🤷🏻‍♂️

Takethedogalong replied on 21/11/2019 10:35

Posted on 21/11/2019 10:35

I don’t think 100% of human beings can be relied upon to do the decent thing Rocky sadly. Any technology that can prevent Drink/drug driving, and speeding are ok by me. I had words with someone racing up and down on my Mum’s tiny little road a couple of months ago. He wasn’t a youngster either, late 20’s early 30’s was my guess. He did stop that day, but one of Mum’s neighbours did tell me he had turned his car over a week or so later on nearby country lane. Some folks have no idea of the consequences of their actions.

allanandjean replied on 21/11/2019 10:53

Posted on 21/11/2019 10:53

Hi R2B, Not sure if anyone involved in a drink drive incident would agree with the view that its a 'nut' sized problem and as for choice that's a view that is put forward to justify many undesirable things and sometimes action has to be taken to protect people, sometimes  themselves, with seat belts being a good example.

As for being a 'good idea',just did a quick Google on the thread title and it comes up with a UK company who already provide such equipment, Alcolock GB, and one of their customers is National Express-so its already more than just a 'good idea'.

cyberyacht replied on 21/11/2019 11:05

Posted on 21/11/2019 11:05

Cars made before 2022 will have to comply with the new rules by 2024.

Doubtless an excuse to charge punters some exorbitant fee to update their vehicle. That's going to be a lot of vehicles too.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 21/11/2019 13:56

Posted on 21/11/2019 13:56

A&J, TDA, I understand your concerns completely👍🏻, I see this as a potential problem that could impact some/many. Anomaly’s-the determined drunks will continue regardless, they’ll just drive old or cut & shut motors. I know of people being arrested for over the limit driving to then get to the station & are allowed home due to the supposed drink being medicine. What limit will the in car breathalyser be set at?, Will it stop you driving if it is minutely over, are these in car breathalysers reliable, is the technology proven?. These are my concerns, certainly not allowing drunks on the road👎🏻

Wherenext replied on 21/11/2019 14:48

Posted on 21/11/2019 14:48

This technology is already in use on the continent. It is my understanding that coach drivers in France have to use one of these before starting the engine. 

Anomalies will occur. How do you prevent the non drinking passenger from blowing in it in lieu of the driver, for example? I'm all for anything that will take dangerous drivers off the road. They have tried various methods to eradicate the problem of non insurance and speeding and yet we still have those, but any reduction will help.

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DavidKlyne replied on 21/11/2019 16:21

Posted on 21/11/2019 16:21

I can see it being of useful in cases where people currently show little regard for the limits. However I wonder if, at the other end of the scale, some will be tempted to drink a little more to test the limits of the technology? I am thinking of those people who strictly limit their drinking to one glass of wine or one pint of beer which in normal circumstances won't take them over the UK limit. Will they be tempted to try another glass of wine or a second pint? Just because the technology says its OK doesn't mean it is. I suppose another question is will it be able to be adjusted for the different drink limits in different countries or will all countries have to have the same limit?

David

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