Excise Licence (Road Tax) for EV's
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replied on 17/12/2022 21:16
Posted on 17/12/2022 20:47 by ChocolateTreesEVs do attract VAT…
Mine looses about 10% in poor weather, the same as an ICE does.
Tinwheeler replied on 17/12/2022 21:21
Posted on 17/12/2022 20:47 by ChocolateTreesEVs do attract VAT…
Mine looses about 10% in poor weather, the same as an ICE does.
ChocolateTrees replied on 17/12/2022 22:28
Posted on 17/12/2022 21:16 byMine looses about 10% in poor weather, the same as an ICE does.
I don't understand that comment. A petrol engine runs more efficiently in colder weather and a diesel especially so because the cold air is more dense.
Posted on 17/12/2022 22:28
ICE generate more power in cold conditions because the dense cold air allows for more expansion per piston stroke. But ICE engines also suffer from cold fluids increasing viscosity. However the real impact on both ICE and EV is from dense air (increased drag), cold tyres (increased drag) and wet or snowy roads (increased drag). The impact is identical on any engine type. It’s more noticeable in an EV because of the over all shorter range. If you are driving 200 miles and have 200 miles range, 10% loss is very noticeable. If you are driving 200 miles and have 400 miles range, you don’t notice at all. Of course if you have 200 miles range and are only driving 150, you don’t notice that either.
https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/fuel-economy-cold-weather#:~:text=Cold%20weather%20and%20winter%20driving,to%204%2Dmile)%20trips
redface replied on 12/02/2023 19:25
DavidKlyne replied on 12/02/2023 19:44
Posted on 12/02/2023 19:25 by redfaceI would never buy an EV simply because I would not want to have to tether it every night to my household electricity supply, nor go on a long trip and have to join a queue for a fast charge at a pfs. or motorway service station.
Posted on 12/02/2023 19:44
Unless you are getting on in years you might not get the choice
My eldest son has an EV and he charges it via his house supply. He gets his electricity from Octopus Energy and they do an overnight rate of 12p per Kwh which is much cheaper than going to a fast charger. OK he has had to pay for the charger to be installed. Everything is controlled by an App on his phone.
I am of an age that regular stops at service stations are requirement! So I can see no issue with plugging the car into a charger whilst I go off and use the facilities and probably have a coffee. A more civilised mode of motoring is on its way!
David
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ChocolateTrees replied on 12/02/2023 21:39
Posted on 12/02/2023 19:25 by redfaceI would never buy an EV simply because I would not want to have to tether it every night to my household electricity supply, nor go on a long trip and have to join a queue for a fast charge at a pfs. or motorway service station.
Posted on 12/02/2023 21:39
I am curious to know why you wouldn’t want to plug it in at home?. We have two now. The new little one needs charging about once every 2 weeks. The other about twice a week, based on current mileages. The big one has done 24000 miles in 21 months. It’s sooo much easier than filling with fuel.
The stories of queues at charging stations over Christmas were true, but isolated. Really no worse than the queues that were experienced last April (a lot less bad) for petrol when there was just a rumour of a shortage.
With a bit of using the the technology, the queues can basically be avoided… and you only need them on really long journeys anyway…
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