Do you have to attend degree course?
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Cornersteady replied on 16/04/2017 11:14
Posted on 16/04/2017 11:11 by NavigateurIf you think you know all the stuff you become a lecturer and find out you don't.
Cornersteady replied on 16/04/2017 11:19
Posted on 16/04/2017 10:34 by IanHDon't think I actually said that. I think that the university fees are a good thing (pay for what you get) but my point was about if you don't need to be lectured.
Rocky 2 buckets replied on 16/04/2017 11:21
Posted on 16/04/2017 11:19 by CornersteadySo if you don't need to be taught what universities can teach you why do you want a degree?
IanH replied on 16/04/2017 11:22
Posted on 16/04/2017 11:21 by Rocky 2 bucketsSome folk like letters after their name
JVB66 replied on 16/04/2017 11:37
Posted on 16/04/2017 11:37
I left school at 15 went and got an apprenticeship did five years with 1 day a week at Brixton Tech and retired as a senior manger, who would have an open door, and could still give advise to staff if they had need of i t,where as later on it was "parachuted in""graduates" who were given managerial posts,who if there was a "problem" would consult their "spreadsheets"and if it did not appear on them they were flumaxed, getting down and dirty on the shop floor was an Alien enviroment , their attitude was/is Just order a new one (and now probably made in the Far East
Cornersteady replied on 16/04/2017 11:42
Posted on 16/04/2017 11:42
I would suggest that Ian, you're not totally clear what a university education actually gives you. It is not about facts and recall, or acquiring new facts and being able to recall them in an exam. In fact simple recall won't get you a degree anywhere in the UK. The actual subject in most cases doesn't really matter its the intellectual processes learned along the way and the fact that these are transferable skills to be used anywhere. That's what makes graduates so appealing to most employers. I suggest you google Bloom's taxonomy for a fuller picture but at the bottom end is simple recall and to apply that recall. These are covered at GCSE and A level, or most vocational qualifications like Btec or City and Guilds. Universities or higher education rather, looks and teaches at the higher thought processes.
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Cornersteady replied on 16/04/2017 11:50
Posted on 16/04/2017 10:22 by trellisIn that case Corners ,do you think that the tax payers should find non uni courses i.e apprenticeships.Or do they as it's a long time ago I did mine ?.
Posted on 16/04/2017 11:50
Yes I do. At the moment Apprenticeships are partly funded by the taxpayer. The employer will pay the apprentice a minimum wage (currently £3.50 an hour) and pay for their training, but employers can access government funding for wages and training. See https://www.gov.uk/apprenticeships-guide/pay-and-conditions for more details.
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Rocky 2 buckets replied on 16/04/2017 11:54
JVB66 replied on 16/04/2017 11:54
Posted on 16/04/2017 11:54
The graduates I had to "instruct" in their roles had one stock answer that seemed to be"instilled"in them, when asked what their degree brought to the post it was "a degree proves one can absorb knowledge not the subject's that one studies"???) I Was glad that my retirement oportunity came when i was just 51
trellis replied on 16/04/2017 12:00
Posted on 16/04/2017 11:50 by CornersteadyYes I do. At the moment Apprenticeships are partly funded by the taxpayer. The employer will pay the apprentice a minimum wage (currently £3.50 an hour) and pay for their training, but employers can access government funding for wages and training. See https://www.gov.uk/apprenticeships-guide/pay-and-conditions for more details.
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