Covid - news and views

brue replied on 08/02/2021 13:35

Posted on 08/02/2021 13:35

It's good to hear that members of CT are receiving their vaccinations, good luck to all those yet to have theirs. It seems like a long haul till we get everyone sorted and hear the results of the present vaccines. 

I'm leaving this open for non political comments as per the guidelines. Hope you can add your own experiences and thoughts.

My first jab comes up tomorrow, I'm so glad we have research institutions that have got us this far! And I am planning breaks away in the hope of improvements on the horizon.

 

brue replied on 11/02/2021 12:21

Posted on 11/02/2021 12:06 by

As a general point about vaccination I do think it should be compulsory in the same way that smallpox was and consequently has now been eradicated. Medical and care workers refusing it is incomprehensible to me and in an ideal world where there was an unlimited supply of qualified and willing replacements I would make it a condition of employment but there is not and as long as its voluntary the safety of the residents in homes will continue to be compromised. This is a subject very close to me I have a vulnerable daughter in such a home where  some staff  (and very good ones) have expressed reservations now fortunately overcome.

Posted on 11/02/2021 12:21

It's interesting when you look up the history, the smallpox vaccination was made compulsory in 1853 in England and Wales for children in their first three months of life and was discontinued in 1971.

Smallpox killed all ages of the population so a slightly different scenario. But I agree, anyone working with vulnerable people should be vaccinated it should be part of their contract. I think at present there are contractual problems which will need to be overcome, hopefully sooner rather than later.

replied on 11/02/2021 12:38

Posted on 11/02/2021 12:08 by JVB66

Negative? and what has been advised on news programmes and other media outlets (not the terrible social media vitriol) to try to encourage some areas of the population to increase the takeup, ,even a very major campaign. by very public members of the BAME community undecided

Posted on 11/02/2021 12:38

There are also very responsible and well informed social media channels

Takethedogalong replied on 11/02/2021 13:25

Posted on 11/02/2021 13:25

The reasons for none take up are hugely varied. Varies from community to community as well. Some are still the very reasons that hold certain communities back in a lot of aspects of their lives, so the breaking down of these barriers are complex and very difficult. It’s not just the BAME communities, but many other cultures, lifestyles, entrenched beliefs.

Difficult, but persuasion needs to happen.  

brue replied on 11/02/2021 13:38

Posted on 11/02/2021 13:38

There's been a very high uptake of the vaccination programme so in most respects it's going well. At some point the level reached will probably protect everyone, when there's a low uptake problems occur but so far so good.smile

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 11/02/2021 14:11

Posted on 11/02/2021 12:08 by JVB66

Negative? and what has been advised on news programmes and other media outlets (not the terrible social media vitriol) to try to encourage some areas of the population to increase the takeup, ,even a very major campaign. by very public members of the BAME community undecided

Posted on 11/02/2021 14:11

I agree there are campaigns๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป, but they’re not working, a concerted effort is needed to get to the nub of the issue, if some refuse then so be it, I will never ever agree to a forced vaccination programme. Vax by agreement or don’t get vax’d, we do not live in a Police state.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 11/02/2021 14:13

Posted on 11/02/2021 13:38 by brue

There's been a very high uptake of the vaccination programme so in most respects it's going well. At some point the level reached will probably protect everyone, when there's a low uptake problems occur but so far so good.smile

Posted on 11/02/2021 14:13

As a Country we need 85% to get herd immunity-to ensure a normal life, that’ll be good๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

Whittakerr replied on 11/02/2021 14:18

Posted on 11/02/2021 14:13 by Rocky 2 buckets

As a Country we need 85% to get herd immunity-to ensure a normal life, thatโ€™ll be good๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

Posted on 11/02/2021 14:18

On the BBC news this morning Matt Hancock stated the current uptake of the vaccine is 90%, well above the original government expectation of 75%.

Lets hope that level of uptake carries on through all the population, and not just in the UK but globally (eventually).

LLM replied on 11/02/2021 14:21

Posted on 11/02/2021 14:21

I'm all for everyone who can be given the jab taking up the offer.  On an individual basis if somebody decides against it they should not be forced and not having it really only puts them at additional risk of serious illness and death, which in turn places added strain on the NHS and other services.

LLM replied on 11/02/2021 14:28

Posted on 11/02/2021 14:13 by Rocky 2 buckets

As a Country we need 85% to get herd immunity-to ensure a normal life, thatโ€™ll be good๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

Posted on 11/02/2021 14:28

According to the WHO

The percentage of people who need to be immune in order to achieve herd immunity varies with each disease. For example, herd immunity against measles requires about 95% of a population to be vaccinated. The remaining 5% will be protected by the fact that measles will not spread among those who are vaccinated. For polio, the threshold is about 80%. The proportion of the population that must be vaccinated against COVID-19 to begin inducing herd immunity is not known. This is an important area of research and will likely vary according to the community, the vaccine, the populations prioritized for vaccination, and other factors.

Wherenext replied on 11/02/2021 15:01

Posted on 11/02/2021 14:21 by LLM

I'm all for everyone who can be given the jab taking up the offer.  On an individual basis if somebody decides against it they should not be forced and not having it really only puts them at additional risk of serious illness and death, which in turn places added strain on the NHS and other services.

Posted on 11/02/2021 15:01

But this isn't correct.

It puts those people who cannot have the vaccine due to underlying health reasons at risk, plus, at the moment, those awaiting the vaccine, plus those who are like minded and also refuse the vaccine.

As you alluded to it does put more strain on Public Health Services.  It also affects the States finances in having to look after them.

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