Be careful what you wish for!

OH dear, how do these older relatives get their necesities?

Don’t show your pretended lack of understanding, JV. 

I assume that some rely on general broad governmental advice and pay no attention to the advice of experts in the field to further consider the general advice JVB. I have in recent days spoken with 3 of my neighbours and all at a distance of 15 feet or more. Were we putting each other at risk in an open environment? Experts in the field say not. 

 

You are probably right ,as i said the governments "rules" as so oft stated the guidance of wise men but the obeyance of others

AD, like yourselves we are thankfully fit and able to take care of ourselves.  My comments about the apparent “neighbourly disinterest” were simply an observation, and I would imagine that there are many similar areas where the same disinterest exists.  Very sad for any vulnerable people living in such areas.

We stood on our doorstep at 8:00 pm last Thursday and joined in the applause for the NHS and other emergency services.  Clapping from nearby streets could be heard, along with a very few close to our home. You could say that this fits in with my previous comments about the lack of neighbourliness.

When I was a kid we lived in a district of terraced houses.  I was told to do little jobs or run errands for any aged neighbours, with strict instructions not to accept any money in reward.  Looking back, I am pleased to remember that this was accepted as normality. The principle has stayed with me ever since, and in recent years my wife has frequently warned me for helping someone where physical effort is unwise at my age.

I have just done my emergency delivery for my Mum. Pick up her meds from Pharmacy, knocked on door, left on doorstep, quick word from gate, all ok here and there, that will be it for a month, other than via social media contacts. I normally care two, three days every week for my Mum, who has dementia. My sister has taken the whole lot on, willingly, and we have a decent plan in place. All deliveries stop at the door, everything dealt with appropriately.  

I cannot imagine what someone in a similar condition to Mum, living all alone is going through at the moment. Our community has made sure anyone vulnerable, be they young or old, has contact details, or is being looked out for in whatever way helps. Even a wave through a window and a smile has enormous value at the moment.

I actually 'visited' my eldest daughter last week. She is at risk as she has had heart problems and is diagnosed as being in heart failure although recent tests have shown some improvements to her general condition. Much to her shame she was breathalysed at around 6.30am one morning a month ago and was just over the limit from a previous drinking session. She was suspended from driving for 12 months, given community service and a counselling session series on substance abuse. Originally the community service was to be in house removals but impossible for her. 9 months ago she had to sit on the bed to hoover her bedroom. So a place in a charity shop, She is supposed to visit her probation officer every two weeks (80 mins each way on public transport) and the counselling sessions (within walking distance) weekly I think. Counselling is now a 5 min phone chat and the probation officer visited her today. Communication was a wave through the window and 5 mins on the phone. 

My reason for travelling the 25 miles to daughters place and the 5 miles each way to hospital was to avoid her using public transport. Because OH had been in the passenger seat that morning to take her Yaris in to garage I provided gloves and I wore a face mask. 

What I found ridiculous was that she had a scan with staff in PPE but in the phlebotomist department she had to insist that the person taking the blood sample gloved up and wore a mask

I assume you posted your OP to get a discussion going and I have tried to discuss and to seek clarity of your thinking, that, with respect, appears to change from one post to the next. Is it 'argumentative' because some (all?) do not agree with you?

I can sort of see what your trying to say with nature doing checks and balances. The hunter prey system has been modelled very well using calculus - the hunter eats the prey and the hunter population goes up as the prey population goes down which lead to the hunter population going down which leads to the prey pollution going up and on and on... Relatively simple equations can predict what happens at any one moment in time.

So nature could balance the 'damage' done by humans (which was your first point). But now you appear to be saying that nature is working through us humans to self destruct?

A sort of nature saying: well the Bubonic Plague, didn't do a good enough job so let's just switch humans' intelligence on a bit and get them to do it instead? 

That to me is just nonsense and I just don't agree with your idea that there is a guiding force like the one you describe, sorry though that no one has checked on you, perhaps just something local, plenty round here have.

Stay safe

 

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Your "Visit" to your mother is just the caring "visit" is what i would consider an essential journey, and  happens in this area and many others i would expect,  at this very dangerous times ,

Although some posters would not want that to happen by  their posts