Mr Bates vs the Post Office

Posted on 08/01/2024 13:23 by mickysf

Yesterday we were assured that things were happening but still those games are being played. We were told by the PM it’s all history as it happened  long ago in the 1990s.

The  fact is that Horizon only rolled out in 1999.  The deceit and consequences of those failures we hear of only came out in the 2000s when the coverups, control and coercion started leaking out about the alleged theft, fraud and false accounting.

THe PM also announced yesterday that a 600k interim payment is being made.It’s not interim, it’s a final payment with all those caveats in place to protect those individuals and bodies which have caused the problem in the first place.

Are we being continually mislead or does the PM really not have a grip on the situation or have an understanding of the situation.

 

Posted on 08/01/2024 15:06 by LLM

I wonder why Kier Starmer did nothing when he was Director of Public Prosecutions 2008-2013? 

Posted on 08/01/2024 15:06 by LLM

I wonder why Kier Starmer did nothing when he was Director of Public Prosecutions 2008-2013? 

Posted on 08/01/2024 15:25 by Tinwheeler

As B2 says, it is outside of the realm of DPP/CPS but, according to the PM, that may now be reviewed. It’s a historic thing dating back to pre-privatisation days when many nationalised industries could operate under different rules. They follow PACE procedures but do not need to involve the Police or CPS. 

Edit: we crossed. I don't defend any politician or Govt but why would the DPP intervene when The Post Office assured everyone they were dealing with the situation?

Posted on 08/01/2024 15:57 by DavidKlyne

This is quite an interesting article in Computer Weekly It seems that computers are classed as being reliable unless it can be proved otherwise. As this case illustrates it is very difficult to prove "the system" faulty without have full access to information. If one side makes that difficult/impossible it becomes very difficult to prove anything. 

David

Posted on 08/01/2024 16:31 by LLM

As soon s it become apparent that there may have been various travesties of justice the DPP could have ordered a legal review. 

Posted on 08/01/2024 16:34 by LLM

I think that you may be confusing civil law with criminal law.  I can assume that computer weekly is referring to civil law.