UK sites with metered electricity

eurortraveller replied on 11/11/2021 09:59

Posted on 11/11/2021 09:59

Can people please post some examples of UK sites where electricity.usage is metered.

The one I know of is Pier Collage on the waterside at Coniston - a family owned site with 15 pitches . The system there is to pay on departure for the amount of electricity used, but other sites sell pre paid cards on arrival, so comments on the different ways of working may be helpful.

Likes and dislikes will inevitably crop up - they always do on here - but I was rather looking for practical ways of working. 

 

Tammygirl replied on 11/11/2021 12:21

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:21

Meadowview Farm CL has meters, we were lucky the previous camper had left enough in the meter we didn't have to feed it smile

Cornersteady replied on 11/11/2021 12:39

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:07 by eurortraveller

That’s interesting PD. The Blossom Touring Park looks to be a site with over 100  pitches so shows that metering is not confined to CLs and small sites .And  as that site has been running meters for about ten years it might be one for the Club to talk to if they are ever inclined to experiment with meters on one of their own sites. 

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:39

But the main question is did that site have to install meters from scratch or did they convert existing EHU points? You appear to know the history?

The main point that people who advocate meters never answer is where will the money come from to convert a very rough low estimate of 10,000 current EHU on club sites. At what cost per pitch? £1 per pitch would be too low of course, £10? Still far too low I think but there's £100,000. £20... 

You can do the sums yourself. So the question is where will this money come from? The club can only get it back from higher pitch fees? And to ensure that maybe there would be no option to not have it? Or it could use it's reserves and then not do any refurbishments, more pitches or buy new sites?

So over to you?

Tammygirl replied on 11/11/2021 12:42

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:20 by Cornersteady

I often wonder, and a serious question here, do people who advocate mertering do this for any other stay or it is just reserved for (club) caravan sites? 

Do they have the same views when staying at hotels, B&B, glamping cabins, cruse ships, holiday cottages?

I always stay all inclusive on further afield holidays and I never think that the table next to be is eating more than me, or having too many drinks at the pool bar, or I am somehow paying for other's people food, drink, heat...  

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:42

Good question.

Personally and its just my opinion. I would prefer to pay for what I use on campsites, we have used metered sites and it doesn't bother me, as long as I know before hand the charge per Kw and I see both the reading before and after my stay, the rest is then down to me.

If others are using heaters in the awning, cooking outside on electric or whatever they are doing its up to them, they are paying for it. 

Re: Hotels, B&B and Cruises then of course I would expect that to be included in the price of stay, mainly because I wouldn't be cooking or running additional heaters etc.smile

If I was to use a rented cottage or glamping accommodation then again metered wouldn't bother me, as long as I'm informed before finalising a booking.

I think when you have to pay for what you use it focuses the mind, isn't that the reason they are pushing for us all to get Smart meters. I believe with a smart meter you can see what you are using and where you can possibly make savings. smile

EDIT. We never stay at all inclusive having witnessed the over indulgence that it leads some folk into, mainly drink, this can and does lead to some very unsavoury behaviour. We much prefer to stay self catering, hotels of course its usually B&B basis. Cruises are a completely different ball game, yes you can over indulge on food but drinks are usually very expensive so not often do you see over indulgence. 

Cornersteady replied on 11/11/2021 12:53

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:42 by Tammygirl

Good question.

Personally and its just my opinion. I would prefer to pay for what I use on campsites, we have used metered sites and it doesn't bother me, as long as I know before hand the charge per Kw and I see both the reading before and after my stay, the rest is then down to me.

If others are using heaters in the awning, cooking outside on electric or whatever they are doing its up to them, they are paying for it. 

Re: Hotels, B&B and Cruises then of course I would expect that to be included in the price of stay, mainly because I wouldn't be cooking or running additional heaters etc.smile

If I was to use a rented cottage or glamping accommodation then again metered wouldn't bother me, as long as I'm informed before finalising a booking.

I think when you have to pay for what you use it focuses the mind, isn't that the reason they are pushing for us all to get Smart meters. I believe with a smart meter you can see what you are using and where you can possibly make savings. smile

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:53

Thanks for the reply smile

While in a hotel though you wouldn't be perhaps be running extra heaters but you could then up the heat or AC... far more than next door?  

I have a smart meter but all it does is just send the data to the energy company. They did give me a display unit but I never even plugged it it. If I'm cold I turn the heat up, if I need to run a device then I'll run it. I'm not saying against anything about those that do and watch every KW, good for them, but not the way I want to live.

DEBSC replied on 11/11/2021 12:57

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:57

Tammy, checking your usage is the reason they give for having a Smartmeter. However, I believe that the real reason is in order that they don’t have to employ people to come and read the meters so frequently. Saving them money.

Tammygirl replied on 11/11/2021 13:01

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:53 by Cornersteady

Thanks for the reply smile

While in a hotel though you wouldn't be perhaps be running extra heaters but you could then up the heat or AC... far more than next door?  

I have a smart meter but all it does is just send the data to the energy company. They did give me a display unit but I never even plugged it it. If I'm cold I turn the heat up, if I need to run a device then I'll run it. I'm not saying against anything about those that do and watch every KW, good for them, but not the way I want to live.

Posted on 11/11/2021 13:01

I guess you are right you can turn up the heating/AC, for me its normally turning it down as I find these places far to hot and stuffy.

Maybe since Covid and the fresh air push, we might see hotels etc running heating at a more conservative setting. smile

We don't have a smart meter they are not being fitted where we live  (I don't want one anyway) we did have a devise that showed us what our usage was in real time and I must say it does help if you are concerned about your consumption.

Once we had solar panels fitted though it no longer worked. We generate quite a good bit and when home we tend to run devises like washing machine, dishwasher, iron etc during the day when we are generating. smile

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Cornersteady replied on 11/11/2021 13:07

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We have a smart meter but don't bother with switching on the display panel in the living room.  As already said there is more to life that counting KW hours and being one of those who would be actually paying for them on a campsite that's the reason I so dislike metered supply. If the site says €5 per day for EHU  its fine with me and I care not that I am probably only using €3.

Posted on 11/11/2021 13:07

David, today is a special day I have liked two of your postssmile

Cornersteady replied on 11/11/2021 13:10

Posted on 11/11/2021 13:01 by Tammygirl

I guess you are right you can turn up the heating/AC, for me its normally turning it down as I find these places far to hot and stuffy.

Maybe since Covid and the fresh air push, we might see hotels etc running heating at a more conservative setting. smile

We don't have a smart meter they are not being fitted where we live  (I don't want one anyway) we did have a devise that showed us what our usage was in real time and I must say it does help if you are concerned about your consumption.

Once we had solar panels fitted though it no longer worked. We generate quite a good bit and when home we tend to run devises like washing machine, dishwasher, iron etc during the day when we are generating. smile

Posted on 11/11/2021 13:10

I think that is a good point in your last paragraph. The club should , and I'm sure, is looking and using other ways for providing electricity and better insulation - but I don't want the site entrance blocked by IBsmile 

In fact I'm pretty sure I saw some solar lights at my last site.  

EmilysDad replied on 11/11/2021 13:46

Posted on 11/11/2021 12:53 by Cornersteady

Thanks for the reply smile

While in a hotel though you wouldn't be perhaps be running extra heaters but you could then up the heat or AC... far more than next door?  

I have a smart meter but all it does is just send the data to the energy company. They did give me a display unit but I never even plugged it it. If I'm cold I turn the heat up, if I need to run a device then I'll run it. I'm not saying against anything about those that do and watch every KW, good for them, but not the way I want to live.

Posted on 11/11/2021 13:46

You are fortunate that you don't need to count the pennies, but not everyone is in the same situation.  I have a smart meter with a display that is actually plugged in, like you I use the power I need/want but it it interesting to see the consumption of particular appliances when  they are doing their thing. And at night/evening time when you think that everything is off .... what exactly is using that 2 pence per hour? 🙄

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