Posted on 27/05/2024 17:52
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel the prices for pitches are way too expensive.
Knaresborough club site. 3 adults and one child - £58.60. That's disgusting!
Won't be staying there and to be honest, I am not sure why I am a member, most of the sites I have stayed at are independent.
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Posted on 15/06/2024 12:56
When charging for dogs is mentioned, many people always respond with dog owners will react by going somewhere else and the Club will lose out.
My simple question is " Where will they go?" - ISTM the vast percentage of Commercial sites already charge for and limit the number of dogs and they are unlikely to find a free welcome elsewhere.
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Posted on 15/06/2024 12:56 by MikeyAWhen charging for dogs is mentioned, many people always respond with dog owners will react by going somewhere else and the Club will lose out.
My simple question is " Where will they go?" - ISTM the vast percentage of Commercial sites already charge for and limit the number of dogs and they are unlikely to find a free welcome elsewhere.
Posted on 15/06/2024 13:17
Of course there are some people who will take every opportunity to jump on the anti dog bandwagon and we know their posts are made with ulterior motives as they simply cannot accept that CAMC has no intention of charging for dogs.
However, maybe people would go elsewhere, maybe not but they sure bring business to CAMC at present. It gives CAMC an advantage which is probably appreciated by members.
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Posted on 15/06/2024 12:56 by MikeyAWhen charging for dogs is mentioned, many people always respond with dog owners will react by going somewhere else and the Club will lose out.
My simple question is " Where will they go?" - ISTM the vast percentage of Commercial sites already charge for and limit the number of dogs and they are unlikely to find a free welcome elsewhere.
Posted on 15/06/2024 13:41
The vast majority of commercial sites charge for dogs? I've just done a check of five large sites and none of which charge for dogs nor limit them Burt.
But it's not about what may happen it's about what is happening now. At the moment there is no charge for dogs, so those with dogs will, in my view, choose the club rather than go elsewhere where they are charges (yes they exist but not in the vast numbers or percentage that you claim), so if charges were to be introduced it will be lost income.
I know you're not bothered being a non member and say you don't use club sites (so why do you want a limit/charge for dogs?) but that could mean higher prices.
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Posted on 15/06/2024 13:17 by TinwheelerOf course there are some people who will take every opportunity to jump on the anti dog bandwagon and we know their posts are made with ulterior motives as they simply cannot accept that CAMC has no intention of charging for dogs.
However, maybe people would go elsewhere, maybe not but they sure bring business to CAMC at present. It gives CAMC an advantage which is probably appreciated by members.
Posted on 15/06/2024 12:56 by MikeyAWhen charging for dogs is mentioned, many people always respond with dog owners will react by going somewhere else and the Club will lose out.
My simple question is " Where will they go?" - ISTM the vast percentage of Commercial sites already charge for and limit the number of dogs and they are unlikely to find a free welcome elsewhere.
Posted on 15/06/2024 14:10
Burt, as someone who hasn’t got a pooch, you have no experience or insights into holidaying in any form with a dog, or dogs. Those of us that have and do, know that life with dogs is a whole lot easier, and in many instances surprisingly cheap to take a dog/s.
Most of your anecdotal insights are merely based on a bit of quick Googling, and given your long (oh so long) tendency to pop up in any kind of thread wanting dog owners to be penalised for holidaying with their beloved pets. We have hardly ever had a holiday without at least one dog along, sometimes two or three. Only place we don’t take them is City breaks. They have been in hotels, B&Bs, cottages, log cabins, on trains (including Eorostar), on ferries. Our Airedale dog travelled free on the Eurostar, huge surprise to us, but we lapped it up. The holiday industry has fully embraced the fact that a lot of people really enjoy having their dogs along, and it’s a whole lot easier nowadays. Hence why it would be such a retrograde marketing policy for the CAMC.
It comes with an important caveat as far as we are concerned. Our dogs are well trained to be quiet, calm and obedient where ever we take them, whatever we do. Owning a dog doesn’t mean I don’t get annoyed with owners who haven’t done the same, but punitive charging won’t solve this issue. I do fully understand the choice of those who will go to a no dogs site as well, same as adult only sites.
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Posted on 15/06/2024 14:10 by TakethedogalongBurt, as someone who hasn’t got a pooch, you have no experience or insights into holidaying in any form with a dog, or dogs. Those of us that have and do, know that life with dogs is a whole lot easier, and in many instances surprisingly cheap to take a dog/s.
Most of your anecdotal insights are merely based on a bit of quick Googling, and given your long (oh so long) tendency to pop up in any kind of thread wanting dog owners to be penalised for holidaying with their beloved pets. We have hardly ever had a holiday without at least one dog along, sometimes two or three. Only place we don’t take them is City breaks. They have been in hotels, B&Bs, cottages, log cabins, on trains (including Eorostar), on ferries. Our Airedale dog travelled free on the Eurostar, huge surprise to us, but we lapped it up. The holiday industry has fully embraced the fact that a lot of people really enjoy having their dogs along, and it’s a whole lot easier nowadays. Hence why it would be such a retrograde marketing policy for the CAMC.It comes with an important caveat as far as we are concerned. Our dogs are well trained to be quiet, calm and obedient where ever we take them, whatever we do. Owning a dog doesn’t mean I don’t get annoyed with owners who haven’t done the same, but punitive charging won’t solve this issue. I do fully understand the choice of those who will go to a no dogs site as well, same as adult only sites.
Posted on 15/06/2024 14:41
I fully understand what you are saying and I accept that if the Club didn't allow dogs then they would lose many caravanners etc. What I don't understand is why charging say £2 per night would make any difference to the numbers on CAMC sites.
Do you pay for dogs with other holidays providers?
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Posted on 15/06/2024 14:41 by MikeyAI fully understand what you are saying and I accept that if the Club didn't allow dogs then they would lose many caravanners etc. What I don't understand is why charging say £2 per night would make any difference to the numbers on CAMC sites.
Do you pay for dogs with other holidays providers?
Posted on 15/06/2024 14:41 by MikeyAI fully understand what you are saying and I accept that if the Club didn't allow dogs then they would lose many caravanners etc. What I don't understand is why charging say £2 per night would make any difference to the numbers on CAMC sites.
Do you pay for dogs with other holidays providers?
Posted on 15/06/2024 14:57
But as a non member and non club site user why ask yourself such questions or try and understand it at all Burt? It won't affect you in nay way?
Btw the cottage we've just returned from had no extra charge for dogs. actually it said pets
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Posted on 15/06/2024 15:41
"Do you pay for dogs with other holidays providers?"
Good question - and one I can readily answer! Since we stopped caravanning 4 years ago, we have been using a mixture of cottages, hotels and B&B's. And it's easy to find places that don't charge for dogs. In fact, it seems to be a growing trend - maybe a reflection of more families staying in the UK for holidays. We've got some really good deals through a company called Pets Pyjamas who specialise in UK hotels and cottages where dogs stay free. Mind you, the last cottage we used did charge us an extra £10 for the week (and that was with 2 dogs.)
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Posted on 13/06/2024 16:34 by DavidKlyneWhat justifies the the price is that children are small adults. If you are going to have a system which has a per person charge you have to include children. Don't forget also that I believe children under five are not charged. Its not just the amount of energy that an adult/child will use its also the cost of building and maintaining the facilities in the first place. Lets not forget that many sites have had expensive play areas installed. By contrast the dogs, as far as Club sites are concerned, don't dramatically incur much in the way of extra costs. As I pointed out if you were to base charges on investment in facilities and use of those facilities it would be difficult to justify anything other than a modest charge for dogs. Obviously a charge for dogs and perhaps a limit on the number of dogs would probably be popular with some non dog owners but the Club have to balance that against what would be achieved if there were a charge.
David
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