Email regarding price increases

JillwithaJay replied on 21/03/2022 15:11

Posted on 21/03/2022 15:11

Anybody received this yet?

"We look forward to welcoming you shortly on our UK Club campsites.


Ahead of your arrival, we wanted to give you advance notice that we’ll be making a small increase to our UK Club campsite prices for stays between 5 April 2022 and 3 January 2023 inclusive.


The unfortunate and sad events which have engulfed the world in recent weeks have meant worldwide electricity costs have increased exponentially. In fact the Club's electricity costs are forecast to increase by an unprecedented amount of around 50% this year.


The fairest way for the Club to manage the rising cost of energy required to run our UK Club campsites is for all members to pay a little bit extra when staying with us this year. This small price increase will support the Club in the face of the rising cost of energy and also help ensure that we can continue to reinvest in improving the UK Club campsite network.


What this means for you:


The increase will be between 70p and £2.50 per night depending on the season and the campsite you are planning to stay on. These calculations are based on a standard touring pitch and two adults.
From 5 April 2022 you’ll be able to see the exact new price you’ll pay by logging into ‘My profile’ and clicking on the ‘My UK Sites Bookings’ section.


There’s no need for you to do anything, on arrival at the campsite you will be charged the appropriate amount.


We appreciate this price increase will not be welcomed, however we would like to share that members have saved over £12.5 million on stays at our UK Club campsite network since July 2020, as the Club passed on the full Government VAT rate saving to members.


We need your support to ensure our wonderful Club can continue to operate all of our amazing campsites at the same high standards during the busy summer season and into the winter, when we expect utility costs to rise further.


What can you do to help:


Below are a few hints and tips to help reduce the cost of electricity usage when you are staying on one of our campsites.


If you have a solar unit on your outfit please use it as much as possible
Make sure indoor and outside lights, any heating appliances and electrical equipment are all turned off when you go out for the day and overnight
We want members to enjoy many holidays with the Club this year, so thank you for your continued loyalty and support, and we wish you an enjoyable 2022 season of touring.


Best wishes
The Caravan and Motorhome Club"

Rufs replied on 22/03/2022 09:47

Posted on 22/03/2022 09:37 by huskydog

So ,what is the Club doing about reducing its costs on sites , they Em to want us the customer to do all the saving for them .

when are they going to put solar panels on the reception etc , it has to work both ways 

Posted on 22/03/2022 09:47

what a great idea, but why did this not do this many years ago, they have loads of roof space and many will be south facing, not sure if they would have been eligible for the feed in tariff scheme but even so it could have saved a lot of pennies.

dont often use club sites, but for me cutting the amperage could very well be a short term fix, and locking the boxes so that them that trips the breaker have to wait until the wardens are available to reset.

Lots of those who shout about awning heaters etc are those who sit in their vans heater on 24hrs per day watching tv, with a 6ft fridge freezer burning electricity trying to keep cool and a cable hanging out of the window charging the Smart car .

 

replied on 22/03/2022 10:09

Posted on 22/03/2022 09:29 by DavidKlyne

The Club have not ruled out the introduction of electricity meters but accept it would be an expensive endeavour but also accept the fairest way is for people to pay by use (AGM Minutes 2021)  It is a bit of a chicken and egg situation, its being brave enough to invest the required amount of money to put metering in place. Some have suggested non electric pitches, which do exist in a few location, but how would that work generally? As the vast majority of pitches on Club sites have access to an electrical bollard how would it be policed? Would we find a situation where a specific point is unlocked for use on arrival? Is that really going to happen. If we take the average increase being about £1.62 a night over say 250 nights a year that amounts to about £400 a pitch which would be more than enough to install a meter. We have no idea how long the current prices of electricity will stay high but even without the current crisis the move towards the use of "green" energy I would suggest we won't see the sort of reduction to the levels we have been used to in recent years? The Club have a decision to make.

David

Posted on 22/03/2022 10:09

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mickysf replied on 22/03/2022 10:10

Posted on 22/03/2022 09:36 by SteveL

Given this and the desire of the club to showcase its green credentials it makes absolute sense to me that they consider an option to opt out of EHU usage.

Would it be showcasing its green credentials?  If I opted out of EHU I would consume gas for fridge, water and space heating, as well as our normal cooking. Surely it’s greener to use renewable electric from the EHU?

Posted on 22/03/2022 10:10

That’s a valid point, Steve. However, I make every effort to reduce my use of gas as much as possible. After all, to a degree this is a limited supply where as the EHU provides whatever, within reason, we wish to draw. Currently the club has no control and little restriction on the energy consumed once that cable is attached. More of the responsibility needs to fall directly on the end user and more limitations need to be in place, hence my support for meters.

TonyG replied on 22/03/2022 10:10

Posted on 21/03/2022 15:11 by JillwithaJay

Anybody received this yet?

"We look forward to welcoming you shortly on our UK Club campsites.


Ahead of your arrival, we wanted to give you advance notice that we’ll be making a small increase to our UK Club campsite prices for stays between 5 April 2022 and 3 January 2023 inclusive.


The unfortunate and sad events which have engulfed the world in recent weeks have meant worldwide electricity costs have increased exponentially. In fact the Club's electricity costs are forecast to increase by an unprecedented amount of around 50% this year.


The fairest way for the Club to manage the rising cost of energy required to run our UK Club campsites is for all members to pay a little bit extra when staying with us this year. This small price increase will support the Club in the face of the rising cost of energy and also help ensure that we can continue to reinvest in improving the UK Club campsite network.


What this means for you:


The increase will be between 70p and £2.50 per night depending on the season and the campsite you are planning to stay on. These calculations are based on a standard touring pitch and two adults.
From 5 April 2022 you’ll be able to see the exact new price you’ll pay by logging into ‘My profile’ and clicking on the ‘My UK Sites Bookings’ section.


There’s no need for you to do anything, on arrival at the campsite you will be charged the appropriate amount.


We appreciate this price increase will not be welcomed, however we would like to share that members have saved over £12.5 million on stays at our UK Club campsite network since July 2020, as the Club passed on the full Government VAT rate saving to members.


We need your support to ensure our wonderful Club can continue to operate all of our amazing campsites at the same high standards during the busy summer season and into the winter, when we expect utility costs to rise further.


What can you do to help:


Below are a few hints and tips to help reduce the cost of electricity usage when you are staying on one of our campsites.


If you have a solar unit on your outfit please use it as much as possible
Make sure indoor and outside lights, any heating appliances and electrical equipment are all turned off when you go out for the day and overnight
We want members to enjoy many holidays with the Club this year, so thank you for your continued loyalty and support, and we wish you an enjoyable 2022 season of touring.


Best wishes
The Caravan and Motorhome Club"

Posted on 22/03/2022 10:10

I also think this was inevitable. However with most vans running on LED lighting the big users are heating and the club should amend its rules to forbid the use of heaters in awnings as most privately owned sites do. So often,  you walk by a van with awning heaters on and nobody in the awning and often no-one in the van either. This is fairly easy to police by wardens as well. 

I do not guide understand the concept of using your solar panel, unless you keep switching on and  off your panel in the van when not using mains driven items. Not very practical.

I agree the club should install more solar panels on site. They are cheap to install and maintain.

Takethedogalong replied on 22/03/2022 10:12

Posted on 22/03/2022 09:09 by mickysf

There has been a massive call over the last decade to move to renewable energy and less wasteful methods of usage. Many have not only future proofed their homes making them less dependant on the grid but some have taken this into their leisure time and their vehicles. Given this and the desire of the club to showcase its green credentials it makes absolute sense to me that they consider an option to opt out of EHU usage. If some are correct in the suggestion that the pitch costs are going to be so high that many will not be able to afford club prices then this option may just make long term economic and environmental sense. Creating non electric pitches is not the way in my opinion but a discounted tariff is. It really is time to be forward thinking and consider the next ten, twenty or more years but the real and immediate issue is that energy sources and costs are running away from us right this minute. 

 

Posted on 22/03/2022 10:12

They missed a very important bus years ago in terms of being more eco friendly and encouraging Members to be so. 

As the owner of a small but well insulated, part solar panelled, low energy equipped outfit (that’s both MH and our old caravan) who rarely trips even a 6amp bollard, and was taught as a child to “put a jumper on”, the Club’s decision for me to subsidise others isn’t a welcome one. However, it will have little impact as we rarely use Club Sites.

The price of touring will seem very high post April, price increase on top of a return to full VAT rates, on top of the fuel to actually get somewhere. (Still no information yet either on just how refundable the coming deposits are going to be). I think a few might question their choice of pitch more carefully this coming year.

SeasideBill replied on 22/03/2022 10:42

Posted on 22/03/2022 06:56 by SteveL

I don’t have any problem with responsible approaches. However, taking camping back to its roots, not a chance. My days of sleeping in a freezing tent are long past, although I didn’t mind it at the time. I’m afraid I will be running my heating overnight, at a reduced level, just like we do at home.

As far as the price increase is concerned, whilst not welcome I don’t have an issue, It was surely inevitable. These are unprecedented times and the CAMC are no different to any other business with spiralling costs, they can only be absorbed to an extent and then have to be passed on. I just hope the 70p to £2.50 range, is lowest in summer highest in winter, not linked to seasonal  price rise, which would not make any sort of sense.

 

Posted on 22/03/2022 10:42

Just put a warmer quilt on, plenty of folks stay at places like Steamer Quay without suffering too much. Reduced site heating at night is tokenism, particularly as many wouldn’t dream of having the central heating on overnight at home. If you really can’t do without tropical conditions use gas, at least you’re paying for that and not me.

Takethedogalong replied on 22/03/2022 10:57

Posted on 22/03/2022 10:57

That’s another dilemma for the Club. It has taken great care down the last decades of what was its core, but ageing Membership. Everything done, put into place, managed, budgeted, to give all the ease and comfort it can to help keep those wanting and needing extras to stay touring. But at a huge expenditure, and not it has to be argued with an eye to widening its demographic overly much. Nothing wrong with that fundamentally, it is where the potential best source of revenue is, but a tipping point is getting closer, those touring are getting younger, not always got the wherewithal to pay High Season prices, and more importantly consider it value for money.

Arch replied on 22/03/2022 10:58

Posted on 22/03/2022 10:58

Everything we purchase has increased in cost due to the energy crisis so its no surprise the club is increasing its costs, I would be very surprised if installing meters would reduce the cost when purchase installation and running costs are taken into account I can see the next suggestion will be to install paid meters and timers in the shower blocks, in my experience cost savings in any industry rarely result in a cost saving for the consumer, I will pay the increase and be thankful I can still afford a holiday.

Takethedogalong replied on 22/03/2022 11:02

Posted on 22/03/2022 11:02

Fear not, the Club is still advertising for lots of HQ staff. Whether it manages to attract Site staff is another question though……🤔

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