Club prices getting silly

richardandros replied on 25/10/2021 14:18

Posted on 25/10/2021 14:18

I'm not one who normally complains about site fees. It's quite simple - you either accept them, or you don't! We are both fortunate in that we are retired with good pensions and don't have to count the 'pennies' too much.  However, I have just attempted to book two nights at Broadway as a stop-over on our way to Devon, next June. For two people on a normal hardstanding pitch on 5 June (not a peak holiday period), we are being asked to pay £39.40 and for the following night, £35.10 - that's over £74 for two nights.  Compare that with 14 nights at the C&CC site at Dartmouth - which is lovely and just as good, if not better than most CAMC sites - for £311.

I think this is ridiculous and will be looking elsewhere.

That said, I am not averse to paying premium prices if it seems justified - we will be paying something like £37pn at Sandringham, this Christmas - but I would expect that at that time of year due to increased demand - but not in what I see as a 'low/mid season' period.

I don't use Club sites very often and if this is the way things are going, together with the threat of introducing deposits I can't see me using them at all in the future.

Rant over - but I think this is a step too far.

 

JVB66 replied on 26/10/2021 09:53

Posted on 26/10/2021 09:38 by Rocky 2 buckets

JV, for the folk who get minimum wage I doubt they’re big holidaymakers☹️. The cost of diesel/petrol is at its highest ever, energy prices alone will wipe out the increase without the pressure of food increases that have only just begun to filter down. I personally think it’ll adversely affect the leisure industry & they’ll be caught between a rock & a hard place☹️🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 26/10/2021 09:53

I though this thread was about site prices?  To which I have posted a comment?

SteveL replied on 26/10/2021 09:59

Posted on 26/10/2021 09:23 by JVB66

With Rishi about to announce the national living wage increase to £9.50per hour ,it will be even more pressure on site prices or possibly a reduction in hours for some site staff to keep costs down

Posted on 26/10/2021 09:59

Surely the rise was always going to happen and would have been factored in to 2022 prices. I would be more concerned about energy costs, which are rising faster than I think anyone would have predicted. I very much doubt there is sufficient factoring in for those and a surcharge or interim price rise may be required.

meecee replied on 26/10/2021 10:07

Posted on 26/10/2021 10:07

"One of the reasons we are prepared to accept CAMC prices is the ease of booking and amendment. If that goes they loose their edge."

This would definitely be true for us

 

 

replied on 26/10/2021 10:18

Posted on 26/10/2021 09:38 by Rocky 2 buckets

JV, for the folk who get minimum wage I doubt they’re big holidaymakers☹️. The cost of diesel/petrol is at its highest ever, energy prices alone will wipe out the increase without the pressure of food increases that have only just begun to filter down. I personally think it’ll adversely affect the leisure industry & they’ll be caught between a rock & a hard place☹️🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 26/10/2021 10:18

Not sure that I follow your line f thought. The leisure and hospitality industries have long paid low wages, often minimum. An increase in the minimum wage will increase their costs.

obbernockle replied on 26/10/2021 10:22

Posted on 26/10/2021 10:22

As a proportion of the price we pay for a pitch, the staff cost element will be very little. The increase in legal minimum wage will add a small percentage to a small percentage. No doubt it will be used as an excuse to pump prices up though.

Example: £30 pitch fee includes say 5% staff cost, and staff cost increases by 10%. This adds 15pence to the £30.

ADP1963 replied on 26/10/2021 10:45

Posted on 26/10/2021 10:45

JV, If it was a reduction in hours would there then be sufficient time for the staff to do the job properly ? and if the answer is yes then surely then the staff have spare capacity now. Again I am not sure about that, all the staff I have seen are very busy all the time. 

replied on 26/10/2021 10:55

Posted on 26/10/2021 10:22 by obbernockle

As a proportion of the price we pay for a pitch, the staff cost element will be very little. The increase in legal minimum wage will add a small percentage to a small percentage. No doubt it will be used as an excuse to pump prices up though.

Example: £30 pitch fee includes say 5% staff cost, and staff cost increases by 10%. This adds 15pence to the £30.

Posted on 26/10/2021 10:55

I don't disagree and I cannot understand why these people are paid minimum wage

MichaelT replied on 26/10/2021 10:59

Posted on 26/10/2021 09:38 by Rocky 2 buckets

JV, for the folk who get minimum wage I doubt they’re big holidaymakers☹️. The cost of diesel/petrol is at its highest ever, energy prices alone will wipe out the increase without the pressure of food increases that have only just begun to filter down. I personally think it’ll adversely affect the leisure industry & they’ll be caught between a rock & a hard place☹️🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 26/10/2021 10:59

I think he means that the site staff are on minimum wages so that will have to be passed on to members/holiday makers in some form or other.

MichaelT replied on 26/10/2021 11:05

Posted on 26/10/2021 09:59 by SteveL

Surely the rise was always going to happen and would have been factored in to 2022 prices. I would be more concerned about energy costs, which are rising faster than I think anyone would have predicted. I very much doubt there is sufficient factoring in for those and a surcharge or interim price rise may be required.

Posted on 26/10/2021 11:05

Most sites I think are calor gas so they will likely have some fixed tariff but I am not sure if the wholesale price of gas affects LPG, we are on 2 year fixed deal at home with Calor.  Electric costs will surely rise, but again they will have some fixed deal with supplier but once this runs out then the costs will rise.  More reason to start offering the choice of EHU or not on all pitches so we can have a choice, if you want EHU you pay if not then you don't, should increase the clubs green credentials a bit anyway as well as fall in line with other providers.

Tinwheeler replied on 26/10/2021 11:08

Posted on 26/10/2021 11:08

We all knew covid would have to be paid for one way or another and prices are rising across the board. Add this to the issues caused by leaving the EU and the financial effect is going to be felt by us all. 

Inevitably site fees will rise in response to massively increased costs with minimum wage levels being a small part of it. I'd not be surprised to see a drop off in site occupancy in future as folk find themselves stretched financially.

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