CAMpRA and the National Trust
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young thomas replied on 14/11/2021 20:02
young thomas replied on 14/11/2021 20:04
Posted on 14/11/2021 14:44 by eurortravellerRe the National Trust..
One of my favourite spots in this part of Cornwall is the estate at Antony House, especially around the estuary, and the woodland walk in Spring which few visitors find. The bottom car park on the right below the house could easily take a few motorhomes overnight if the Trust so wished.
But to instal piped fresh water and drainage, a septic tank for sewage and a drive over grid, then pay to have it emptied regularly, pay for waste and re cycling collections, and probably pay someone to go down there every evening to collect money from those who somehow failed to see the car park machine ….that’s going to mean charging more than the fiver a night which was mentioned earlier.
SteveL replied on 14/11/2021 20:37
Posted on 14/11/2021 20:02 by young thomas...nor me....where did you spot that Steve?
eurortraveller replied on 15/11/2021 10:11
Posted on 14/11/2021 20:04 by young thomasET, there's just no need to provide any facilities at all....we aren't ever going to replicate the aires system of Europe...just getting a new tranche of sites that provide cheap overnighting is a huge step for the UK.
cyberyacht replied on 15/11/2021 16:20
Posted on 15/11/2021 16:20
At the prices being bandied about, it would seem that the NT don't really want to do this. As an NT member I certainly wouldn't expect to pay more than £10 for a night in a car park. ISTM that they haven't looked at pricing structures for similar facilities were they do exist.
young thomas replied on 15/11/2021 16:52
Posted on 15/11/2021 10:11 by eurortravellerAnd in that case where will you go to get drinking water, empty waste, garbage and sewage? The Club won’t let you “pop in” to one of their sites.
Posted on 15/11/2021 16:52
There will be places...and some will be developed with facilities in the form of 'formal aires' but my point was that not every new 'overnighting' area needs to consider these facilities.
I don't see users being on a site like that for weeks on end, merely for a night (or two) here and there as part of a longer tour which would include stops at 'proper sites' where tanks can be refreshed, washing sorted etc...
I see folk dipping in to any new type of facility to provide convenient stops (overnight parking) when required, not as 'destinations' or a one type all the time set up.
yes, in Europe, with their vast resource of aires, one could easily tour for weeks on aires of varying simplicity and cost, most of which will have facilities, but not always every stopping place...
..but we will never get remotely close to this type of touring, the desire isn't there by those who could make it happen.
as I said, any tiny improvement over what we already have is great.
JVB66 replied on 15/11/2021 17:12
Posted on 15/11/2021 17:12
We have just been on a meet up weekend with several friends including a couple who travel from Ayr each year, they stay in a holiday home on the site, ,that we and two other couples stay on the camping area,
They were in part jest.? Speaking about the amount of rubbish and efluent that is getting left in some areas where they tend to travel to , by the Camping fraternity as they call us,
young thomas replied on 16/11/2021 09:19
Posted on 16/11/2021 09:19
I obviously visit the wrong (right?) type of places as, in 11 years of bumbling round Europe, I've never seen 'effluent' where it shouldn't be nor a member of the 'camping fraternity' putting it where it shouldn't go...
..but then we've only used full fat sites, THS, CL/CS, the odd rally, Commercial sites, wild camping, aires, continental sites etc....perhaps we need to get out more?
one of my bugbears is that, where there are stopping and parking places, why are the bins never emptied often enough...surely popular spots (often with limited bins) need faster emptying turnover or more bins?
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JVB66 replied on 16/11/2021 09:27
Posted on 16/11/2021 09:19 by young thomasI obviously visit the wrong (right?) type of places as, in 11 years of bumbling round Europe, I've never seen 'effluent' where it shouldn't be nor a member of the 'camping fraternity' putting it where it shouldn't go...
..but then we've only used full fat sites, THS, CL/CS, the odd rally, Commercial sites, wild camping, aires, continental sites etc....perhaps we need to get out more?
one of my bugbears is that, where there are stopping and parking places, why are the bins never emptied often enough...surely popular spots (often with limited bins) need faster emptying turnover or more bins?
Rocky 2 buckets replied on 16/11/2021 09:30
Posted on 16/11/2021 09:19 by young thomasI obviously visit the wrong (right?) type of places as, in 11 years of bumbling round Europe, I've never seen 'effluent' where it shouldn't be nor a member of the 'camping fraternity' putting it where it shouldn't go...
..but then we've only used full fat sites, THS, CL/CS, the odd rally, Commercial sites, wild camping, aires, continental sites etc....perhaps we need to get out more?
one of my bugbears is that, where there are stopping and parking places, why are the bins never emptied often enough...surely popular spots (often with limited bins) need faster emptying turnover or more bins?