CAMpRA and the National Trust

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young thomas replied on 19/11/2021 09:25

Posted on 19/11/2021 09:13 by peedee

I wonder what the occupancy rate is at those prices. I suppose it might be attractive to a non NT member as it effectively includes entry.

Probably so CY but it certainly does not sit well with NT members of which I am one. I already pay over the odds for membership (it is a charity) so there will be no way I will be using this CL even though I like Stourhead. It may well go down well with CAMpRA members who are not NT members but it hardly encourages them to join the NT

peedee

Posted on 19/11/2021 09:25

You're right, bit of a loose/loose...

NT member charged a fortune, non members not joining as there's no need...

the worst thing the NT could do would be to put a CL in each property and we'd all rescind out memberships in lieu of Steve's £1 a night stays....

SteveL replied on 19/11/2021 09:53

Posted on 19/11/2021 09:24 by Cornersteady

I already pay over the odds for membership

An interesting comment, what is the odds for membership of this kind of organisation then PD? And if you feel that way why pay it?

but it certainly does not sit well with NT members of which I am one

I'm a NT (and EH) member and it sits well with me?

As always use it or not ?

btw the way I'm in favour of using car parks at night for MHs.

 

Posted on 19/11/2021 09:53

I may be wrong but I took Peedee to mean, that there are various options as to at what level you contribute when you get to our age, plus of course there was the option of 3 months extension for the pandemic.

Again don’t know about PD but we have been members for 45 years, for the access it gives to properties and because I support their aims in relation to the open access properties of mountain and coastline.

Of course one is free not to use it, but it would be nice to be given the choice without feeling one was being ripped off. You can stop here but only if you donate another £38, the entrance fee for two. I’m not saying NT members should be able to stop for nothing, but £20 would seem a fair compromise.

peedee replied on 19/11/2021 10:09

Posted on 19/11/2021 10:09

Corners, There are cheaper memberships than the full membershiip I currently pay! Like I said, its a charity which does good for our heritage and countryside but I do not agree with all its policies and effectively charging members twice to visit is not one of them I support.

peedee

 

N1805 replied on 19/11/2021 10:35

Posted on 19/11/2021 10:35

Taken from BoleroBoy’s post - “the worst thing the NT could do would be to put a CL in each property and we'd all rescind out memberships in lieu of Steve's £1 a night stays....

Hopefully the above was said in jest though it could be read as misinformation

I’m a CAMC and NT member and the poster does not ‘speak’ for me with regards to the above comment.  It would be interesting to know who “all” are that the poster refers to and how he/she has come to the conclusion that they would rescind their membership.

I am satisfied with my membership even though I don’t always agree with everything they do.

Have to go now things to do, places to be.

Takethedogalong replied on 19/11/2021 10:55

Posted on 19/11/2021 10:55

The NT is undergoing a lot of change, and not all of it is good. There are a lot of articles available to view if anyone is interested enough to find out more, but long term Members who visit certain NT properties on a regular basis will notice some of these changes. I went to Clumber Park yesterday, and it’s a far cry from the Clumber Park I used to visit only ten years ago. New NT members won’t know any different. 

 

brue replied on 19/11/2021 11:10

Posted on 19/11/2021 11:10

Basically if you're a member of Camc but not the NT you'd get a better deal staying on a NT CL but I suspect the NT will be very persuasive at offering membership to anyone visiting! 

MichaelT replied on 19/11/2021 11:17

Posted on 19/11/2021 10:35 by N1805

Taken from BoleroBoy’s post - “the worst thing the NT could do would be to put a CL in each property and we'd all rescind out memberships in lieu of Steve's £1 a night stays....

Hopefully the above was said in jest though it could be read as misinformation

I’m a CAMC and NT member and the poster does not ‘speak’ for me with regards to the above comment.  It would be interesting to know who “all” are that the poster refers to and how he/she has come to the conclusion that they would rescind their membership.

I am satisfied with my membership even though I don’t always agree with everything they do.

Have to go now things to do, places to be.

Posted on 19/11/2021 11:17

I think BB meant that instead of paying £120 a year to be a member of NT you may as well book a stay at a CL which gives free entry to the property and the cost would be £1 for entry so even if you visited 50 properties a year you would still save £70 on membership.  Basically the NT are taking to p155 out of its members charging £38 a night for a small patch of land to park on, no doubt fuelled by all the newbies panic buying a LV during lcokdown and think its a bargain compared to a package to Spain or somewhere which maybe it is but in mine and many others opinion it is not value for money even for a lovely place like Stourhead and not what Campra and those of use who mailed the NT had in mind when thinking of allowing overnight stays.

young thomas replied on 19/11/2021 11:22

Posted on 19/11/2021 10:35 by N1805

Taken from BoleroBoy’s post - “the worst thing the NT could do would be to put a CL in each property and we'd all rescind out memberships in lieu of Steve's £1 a night stays....

Hopefully the above was said in jest though it could be read as misinformation

I’m a CAMC and NT member and the poster does not ‘speak’ for me with regards to the above comment.  It would be interesting to know who “all” are that the poster refers to and how he/she has come to the conclusion that they would rescind their membership.

I am satisfied with my membership even though I don’t always agree with everything they do.

Have to go now things to do, places to be.

Posted on 19/11/2021 11:22

My view was that, as has been mentioned several times, the CL 'deal' at NT sites is vastly skewed in lieu of non members.

while I am happy to pay for NT membership for all the other things I get, if I wanted to visit the properties that have them and 'take advantage' of the scheme as presented, then there is no advantage at all in being a member.

hence my comment that, if all NT properties had them and folk made use of them, the NT membership becomes redundant.

however, with the number of NT/CLs being low, there are many more properties to see where we are touring on other types of site...or from home.

just highlighting the skewed thinking....you may not agree, that's fine.👍

PS....thanks Michael, another way of putting a what I tried to write....lol😉

DavidKlyne replied on 19/11/2021 12:33

Posted on 19/11/2021 12:33

We have never joined the NT. Previously that was because the company we worked for had Corporate Membership so all we did was to fill in a form and hand it in when we arrived for free entry. A few years ago that ended but we were not persuaded to join as we don't visit enough properties each year to justify membership. We are still fortunate that we can claim back half the cost of any visit from our ex employees so we are probably in a more fortunate position than most.

The only problem with the charging mentioned for the CL in this thread is if you stay two nights it becomes very expensive. On the other hand if you have relatively short journey and can do the Gardens in an afternoon, stay overnight and leave the next morning it is not bad value.

David 

ADP1963 replied on 19/11/2021 13:37

Posted on 19/11/2021 13:37

I am a N . T member and we have been for many years and will continue to be so. However I do not find it good value for money and certainly do not agree with many of their ways or ventures. But to continue seeing and visiting certain places I realise I have to bite the bullet, such is life, 

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