Camping in the Forest

Doesn’t surprise me really. We first used Forestry Sites back way before C&CC got involved, in particular Beddgelert, which was always fabulous. Spiers House on North York Moors was another favourite, but never taken on by CCC. The prices rocketed, and the Sites lost their wonderful pitch anywhere you can ethos, so we gave up using them to be honest. We did drive round Beddgelert a couple of years ago, (the touring site bit), and frankly it was awful. Pitches tiny, all shaded and very much a side issue o the main money spinner cabins nowadays. FC have realised just how much money they can make now and are going for it big time. Spiers House is now all luxury cabins, mind it could be a mud bath at times there, so it’s long been cabin only. We do miss those lovely days at Beddgelert though, walking up Moel Hebog, along the river and into the village. A lovely location. Sad for CCCcmembers.

Camping, Caravan and Motorhome Club?

I seem to recall that some years ago the C&CC got their fingers burnt by some investment but can't remember the details. They seem also to be getting rid of what we would call here, Affiliated Sites. Perhaps the money they get from this sale will be reinvested in more sites they own, as they have done in the Lake District. Like the CMC they seem to have quite a few sites on not very secure lease deals? 

David

I noticed a couple of C&CC franchised sites had vanished off the network. I think it was Teversal and Ashbourne. There's definitely something afoot and maybe the two clubs amalgamating, as has often been jokingly suggested, could become a reality. 

Your last paragraph seems like a similar situation at this club recently🤔

Not sure really about Beddgelert and C&CC. It was definitely under the CitF name, but whether CCC ran this one, I’m not sure to be honest. Maybe you just got a discount if you were a Member? I do recall booking a pitch was all about what size you wanted. There was definitely a touring area there three years ago, because we drove in and around to have a look. Small, cramped all in shade, and we didn’t get out because of the midges. The cabins occupy the areas we used to pitch up on, much more open and spacious. 
Our CCC experience is very limited, only used one Site at Haltwhistle, we joined because I was doing a lot of camping with my sister, and wanted access to CS’s. We have stayed on a few Listed Sites, and very nice they were. This all predates the internet, I still have my very old Big Book of Sites🤣 

I also have a hunch that the clubs are increasingly collaborating. Do they use the same mailing company? We have been members of both clubs for a good few years and often get similar stuff at the same time.  

It's quite an expensive undertaking for CITF and presumably the C&CC will benefit from selling off their shareholding. It's always been run separately and it will probably be even better when CITF can be autonomous. C&CC have other enterprises with their franchises and their lodge/static sites. They've brought the big Loch Ness site back in house too. A different business ethos to CAMC.

You could well be right. The whole site provision industry has altered greatly these last couple of years. 

Staffing could be a continuing problem as last year it seems,   even now site support (relief) is keeping this site going