Servicing calls at CLs for Motorcaravans

Biggarmac replied on 18/01/2021 17:08

Posted on 18/01/2021 17:08

In 2020 when lockdown was lifted in July there was a surge of members desperate to get out in their units.  Sites were swamped and in some areas it was impossible to find a site.  Many motorcaravanners who had not previously gone off grid (I refuse to use the term wildcamp) found they had no choice.  I was lucky to get three nights on a CL at Blairgowrie during a 10 night tour. and one night on a commercial campsite in the Great Glen.  On other nights I stayed in Pub carparks where I was able to enjoy a meal, in forestry carparks, on coastal carparks and on friends drives.

The big problem was disposing of wastes and filling with water.  Friends with drives were very helpful, but the problem of lack of the type facilities such as there is on the continent was very evident.

On the continent many campsites allow non residents on to service their units, for a fee.  It could be an additional revenue stream for CL owners to allow passing trade to use their service points.  This would be particularly useful for CLs who are full to supplement their income and to reduce the problems which were seem in many popular tourist hotspots last year.  The owners would need to look at what extra costs they would have for this service and what services they would be able to provide.  For instance how much does 100 litres of water cost on a metered supply?  How much each toilet emptying would add to the cost of sewerage?  How much for emptying a greywater supply of say 80 litres?  For comparison the CCC, on some sites, allow members to use site facilities, empty wastes and fill water for £7.30 (last years price).  That also allows for the use of showers.

This would stop the complaint that one night stopovers to dump and fill are blocking longer bookings.  A drop in facility could be a bonus for both CL owners and Motorcaravanners.

replied on 18/01/2021 21:07

Posted on 18/01/2021 20:56 by Biggarmac

One reason is that when people buy vans the salesman tells them how to plug in the electric cable, but not how to use the 12 volt system.  Most vans can be used off grid, but most owners have no idea how to use them in that way. 

Those of us who like rallies and meets would happily use basic sites if they were available.

Posted on 18/01/2021 21:07

Most vans can be used off grid, but most owners have no idea how to use them in that way. 

All vans can be used off grid but most prefer EHU or decent solar etc. I suspect that there are many on this forum who have lived without EHU

Takethedogalong replied on 18/01/2021 21:13

Posted on 18/01/2021 21:13

We are looking at all the options available this year, to ensure we can tour as we want, and at a nightly cost we consider reasonable. Club and CLs are just one string to our bow, but we have decided to look at more basic stops that just give us somewhere to sleep legally, fill up and drop waste where we can. To that end, decided to buy Britstops guide, see what takes our fancy. If we use it a few times, it will be worth it. Likely to give us a push into staying somewhere a tad different as well, so another positive. 

JVB66 replied on 18/01/2021 21:16

Posted on 18/01/2021 21:07 by

Most vans can be used off grid, but most owners have no idea how to use them in that way. 

All vans can be used off grid but most prefer EHU or decent solar etc. I suspect that there are many on this forum who have lived without EHU

Posted on 18/01/2021 21:16

Even on cc sites i have been "without electicity " as two days at Black Knowl one trip when the transformer from the grid  blew up as did the nearly full site ,and again last year at FM when the site power went down all day so i would think quite a few members will know how to work without the umbilical to the Bollard

JVB66 replied on 18/01/2021 21:19

Posted on 18/01/2021 20:51 by Cornersteady

Yes I agree fully, I assume CL owners are responding to what people want.

But I'm asking BM as she appears to be lamenting the idea that basic CLs are disappearing and perhaps she should ask herself why?

She did post Not everyone wants the all singing all dancing sites...

perhaps they do

 

Posted on 18/01/2021 21:19

As i posted on page twowink

replied on 18/01/2021 21:32

Posted on 18/01/2021 21:13 by Takethedogalong

We are looking at all the options available this year, to ensure we can tour as we want, and at a nightly cost we consider reasonable. Club and CLs are just one string to our bow, but we have decided to look at more basic stops that just give us somewhere to sleep legally, fill up and drop waste where we can. To that end, decided to buy Britstops guide, see what takes our fancy. If we use it a few times, it will be worth it. Likely to give us a push into staying somewhere a tad different as well, so another positive. 

Posted on 18/01/2021 21:32

It makes sense to make use of what is available as long as it suits your needs. Makes more sense to me than looking for what is not available

brue replied on 19/01/2021 10:06

Posted on 19/01/2021 10:06

I'm not against Biggarmac's suggestions although it's not something I'm personally searching for as I like to have a rest when travelling and overnight  car parks etc don't do it for me. We once watched the car park at Stonehaven fill up with overnighters and the safe spacing between the vans was compromised. We've seen it in Devon too with nose to tail vans and bbqs etc. I found the update for the Scottish Forestry experiment LINK. I think there was tremendous pressure on Scotland last year with many freewheeling motorhomers heading there, under the misconception that there was plenty of space and they could vanish into the scenery.. Maybe these are the motorhomers who usually head off to Spain etc. However we met a lot staying on sites in the south of the uk and there was room for them.

I can't quite make up my mind about the lifestyle either and whether I should be bothered when there are provisions already on sites and safe overnight spaces to stay.

Tinwheeler replied on 19/01/2021 10:17

Posted on 19/01/2021 10:17

I'm not anti either, Brue, and neither am I pro but I have trouble grasping BM's reason for posting. Is she asking others to do the work to achieve what she wants or seeking suggestions - of which we've given plenty?

Starting threads on the same old topic is bound to generate the same old responses. Far better to be proactive and go out there lobbying for what is wanted. πŸ‘

replied on 19/01/2021 10:28

Posted on 19/01/2021 10:17 by Tinwheeler

I'm not anti either, Brue, and neither am I pro but I have trouble grasping BM's reason for posting. Is she asking others to do the work to achieve what she wants or seeking suggestions - of which we've given plenty?

Starting threads on the same old topic is bound to generate the same old responses. Far better to be proactive and go out there lobbying for what is wanted. πŸ‘

Posted on 19/01/2021 10:28

Certainly some motorhomers/motor-campers perceive a need for such facilities. I can only suppose that, financially possible providers do not see a large enough profit stream to provide for such a need.

peedee replied on 19/01/2021 11:08

Posted on 19/01/2021 11:08

Hopefully more CL owners will spot the business opportunity.

If they do, they would have to put up the standard motorhome dump sign under the CL sign and advertise more widely in some way. I have seen at least one CL who highlights they have a proper MSP. You would think if it is on a mains drain there would be some profit in opening it up to passers by.

If a proper MSP wasn't available I would have to be pretty desparate to stop off and use it. If I am on a CL for say a long weekend, I arrive with full tanks of fresh water and I am more than likely to take my grey waste home where it is much easier to dump than trudge across a field with bucket fulls. Same goes for shows and rallies. I have always made the point for Club sites to offer this service to members on the basis that it is rarely convenient to service a motorhome when staying on a CL

peedee

Takethedogalong replied on 19/01/2021 11:15

Posted on 19/01/2021 11:15

We didn’t have much trouble winging a tour (booking on the road, just checking day before we moved) last September, and we stayed at some top notch sites.......  picturesque CL near Rothbury, £8. Small Private site/CL near Berwick on Tweed, £12 per night. Small private Site, near Powburn (full facilities), £15 per night. Racecourse Site, with brand new facilities at Hexham, £15. I think we averaged something like £13.50 for the whole holiday. That to me is wonderful value. I want to be safe as well, not inches away from another outfit, no matter how many pounds I save, so fully endorse what brue says. 

If had a pound for every time someone said to me last September, “oh we usually go abroad, we can’t get a pitch and isn’t it expensive?” I could have funded our whole holiday. Two different things happening there.......possibly out of touch with how things now work in UK (you have to be pro active, willing to compromise, get that bit more organised) and yes, you might have to pay more to get what you need. Once you accept that this is the way it is, it’s fine. Folks can happily hop back over the Channel once it’s safe to do so, and go back to enjoying what they know and love, but at the moment, the UK way, whether you love or hate it, is what we have got🀷‍♀️ Hopefully, it won’t be too long for those that do tour predominantly overseas, it must be frustrating.

Last place we would go this year is far North of Scotland. Just too many doing it now, ticking the boxes. Fabulous place, but it’s become a victim of its own success. Better to go back when things have calmed down a bit. Mind, I don’t do midges either, so it’s no Summer loss to meπŸ˜‰

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