New CL: fantasy price

henrypartridge replied on 08/09/2016 21:02

Posted on 08/09/2016 21:02

I've just read in the New CLs list in the club magazine, as they laughingly call the junk mail self advertising masquerading as a magazine, that there is a new CL at a garden centre in Northwich, Cheshire. The price is an eye watering £20 a night. Approaching club site price for a CL. Hope no one gives, pricing like this will destroy the whole ethos of the wonderful CL network. 

harryb replied on 30/09/2016 16:07

Posted on 30/09/2016 16:07

My post didn't make mention of any site without EHU so not sure in what context you mentioned that.

Maybe my choice of the word "lucrative" was the wrong choice and I'm sorry if have read it the wrong way. In no way was I implying anyone was charging over the odds. What I meant to say was that those sites that don't open in winter will not have the same amperage use as those that do in summer. Things like fridges, water pumps, tv's etc do not use anywhere near  the amount of electricity  that you stated in your earlier post (10kwh per day) so with that they can't be out of pocket on costs alone surely. Likewise the club too.

 

Fysherman replied on 30/09/2016 16:26

Posted on 30/09/2016 16:26

I too have now looked at what the electricity used in summer might be and I cannot get anywhere neat 10kW per day. 

Perhaps CG could argue at the council meetings for a publicity drive for basic CL'S and how little the site might cost to set up before the club loses too many more members to the other club and it's THS network . I have been a member of both club's on and off since the early 1980's and I am concerned about the drop in CL numbers and frankly what people are saying on sites. 

£5K for ehu if typical is a lot to recover from 5 customers maximum and probably will put off prospective CL owners. 

CG, may I ask, are you a CL owners spokesman or a members who use CLs spokesman.?

ocsid replied on 30/09/2016 17:30

Posted on 30/09/2016 17:30

 

 

£5K for ehu if typical is a lot to recover from 5 customers maximum and probably will put off prospective CL owners. 

 

In considering that EHU provision price there will be many domestic property based 5 van sites that have not the electrical power supply to the property to both support themselves and 5 pitches.

So there the local electricity supplier will need to bring the required power to the property; if that is anything further than tapping into an on property supply, the cost are horrendous. None of those where it is off property will be looking at "just" £5k for that level of power supply together with the EHU points.

Been through this debate with a new higher power provision to neighbouring property, and there the overhead cables are on site boundary.

Hence, my assertion that for so many CLs providing CC site levels of EHUs for just a 5 van site is commercially not on.

If this as stated means clients will not use CLs then the only option is as I see so frequently, is to close completely. 

If the need for EHUs is a must for 5 van sites then the numbers are inevitably going to go down, or pricing will be high or as here "fantasy".

 

wildemere replied on 30/09/2016 17:34

Posted on 30/09/2016 17:34

We have had our CL now for some 18 years and over that time the elecrticiy usage has gone up year on year, I only have to look at my own van today and see what I expect to use that needs charging let alown that needed for cooking , hot water and heating. So what of the future, I had a breif encounter this summer that got me thinking, we had on site a Crossover car , the owner wanted to charge its battry over night, and was willing to pay extra for it, we agreed a price, and all went well, but I forsee this could soon be the norm, how can we as a CL owner recover the costs involved ? I look forward to your replies.

Takethedogalong replied on 30/09/2016 18:04

Posted on 30/09/2016 18:04

If the trend for using more electricity continues, and I think it will, then I would be happier to see new CLs installing meters to be honest. We have an old van with nothing like the gadgets you find in new vans nowadays, and we are frugal users of electric anyway, even when touring in Winter. I realise that this is rather a "what suits us" approach, but I don't want to be priced off CLs. Would accommodate those who like to use more, perhaps want to recharge an electric car, as well as those like us. For the established CLs, then offer a dual price, with electric or without, that way we can still visit but use solar panels and gas as we need.

wildemere replied on 30/09/2016 19:30

Posted on 30/09/2016 19:30

If the trend for using more electricity continues, and I think it will, then I would be happier to see new CLs installing meters to be honest. We have an old van with nothing like the gadgets you find in new vans nowadays, and we are frugal users of electric anyway, even when touring in Winter. I realise that this is rather a "what suits us" approach, but I don't want to be priced off CLs. Would accommodate those who like to use more, perhaps want to recharge an electric car, as well as those like us. For the established CLs, then offer a dual price, with electric or without, that way we can still visit but use solar panels and gas as we need.

Write your comments here...TDA I to see this as the way forward, but feel it needs a few more years before it will be excepted.

Takethedogalong replied on 30/09/2016 19:49

Posted on 30/09/2016 19:49

I think the next 20 years will be rather interesting all round regarding touring. Likely to be fewer people retiring early, certainly less with much in their pension pots, so be interesting to see what trends develop. Then there are the motoring implications, trend towards smaller lighter cars. Boom time at the moment for caravan and Motorhomes, but how long will it last, before there is a back to basics trend. All conjecture of course. Happy

Tirril replied on 30/09/2016 20:09

Posted on 30/09/2016 20:09

I agree with TDA that the option of not taking an EHU would be great for those of us who have invested in solar and Safefill etc. We found this option available on many sites in Southern Ireland. However for CLs having invested in installing EHUs I suspect they will want to charge whether or not you want electricity in order to recoup the cost of installing electricity.

wildemere replied on 30/09/2016 20:13

Posted on 30/09/2016 20:13

I agree with TDA that the option of not taking an EHU would be great for those of us who have invested in solar and Safefill etc. We found this option available on many sites in Southern Ireland. However for CLs having invested in installing EHUs I suspect they will want to charge whether or not you want electricity in order to recoup the cost of installing electricity.

Write your comments here...We have no problem with those who do not want EHU we drop the fees by £2 per night.

gandry replied on 30/09/2016 20:27

Posted on 30/09/2016 20:27

Our relations had complaints from nearby CL owners that they weren't charging enough, I think it was no more than £12 50.

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