New CL: fantasy price

henrypartridge replied on 08/09/2016 21:02

Posted on 08/09/2016 21:02

I've just read in the New CLs list in the club magazine, as they laughingly call the junk mail self advertising masquerading as a magazine, that there is a new CL at a garden centre in Northwich, Cheshire. The price is an eye watering £20 a night. Approaching club site price for a CL. Hope no one gives, pricing like this will destroy the whole ethos of the wonderful CL network. 

young thomas replied on 20/09/2016 08:57

Posted on 20/09/2016 08:57

last two posts have hinted at why small site prices have crept up....electricity...

the investment to do this over and above a similar (but, say, very nicely) mown and kept field, is considerable...

this has to be got back from customers, and it may be that they want that return back reasonably quickly....so this will add to prices.

then there are the 'demands' for showers and toilets....again, often more investment needed, and these small places dont have the economies of scale that the club has to 'work on' costs....

a simple (well kept, well drained) field/garden/meadow can be a lovely place to stay....usually at a sensible price....£10 or less in its native form.... 

start ramping up unnecessary facilities with 'electric, showers, toilets' and that cost will move accordingly.....

visit any number of CCC THS (temp hol sites) which, in effect, are CL-type accommodation but for larger numbers, and these come in at around £8-£9 a night....more akin to an untainted 5-van site....

start changing all this into mini club sites and the cost will soon be on a par.....

no thanks.

MichaelT replied on 20/09/2016 09:26

Posted on 20/09/2016 09:26

No chance if us visiting at that price. Just back from NT Ilam - £14 per night all in with showers & toilets etc. Thats what I call acceptable.

Write your comments here...Fysh that is not he full story of this CL the below is copied fromthe NT website.  More at weekends and BH's also toilets and showers "off stie" however it is on my list to visit now I know its there.

Ilam Park Caravan site is open 7 days per week from: Friday 26 February 2016 to Saturday 29 October 2016.

2016 pitch fees:
£14 per pitch per night on
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday nights

£20 per pitch per night on
Friday and Saturday nights

£22 per pitch per night Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights on bank Holiday weekends.

Fee includes: pitch, 2x adult guests, car parking for 1 vehicle, awning space on pitch, electric hook up, drinking water, waste water disposal facility, shower facilities and toilets nearby but off site.

Mitsi Fendt replied on 20/09/2016 11:00

Posted on 20/09/2016 11:00

Running a CL is hardly a profitable business. Limited to 5 units per night even at £20 a night they are hardly going to get rich given the cost of land and the ancillary services they would need to provide to achieve that price. The customer has a choice, pay and stay or don't pay and don't stay. Surely it up to the owner to charge what they see fit. It's called the free market. My question is fantasy price or realistic price? Depends if you are the customer or the owner.

MichaelT replied on 20/09/2016 11:08

Posted on 20/09/2016 11:08

Running a CL is hardly a profitable business. Limited to 5 units per night even at £20 a night they are hardly going to get rich given the cost of land and the ancillary services they would need to provide to achieve that price. The customer has a choice, pay and stay or don't pay and don't stay. Surely it up to the owner to charge what they see fit. It's called the free market. My question is fantasy price or realistic price? Depends if you are the customer or the owner.

Write your comments here...exactly, if you are going to the trouble of running a CL then you would want to make some thing out of it for the hassle of running it.  How much each person wants to pay will differ but it does amaze me that some people will spend 30k+ on a caravan or 50k+ on a MH and then expect to camp for free....

allanandjean replied on 20/09/2016 12:54

Posted on 20/09/2016 12:54

How much each person wants to pay will differ but it does amaze me that some people will spend 30k+ on a caravan or 50k+ on a MH and then expect to camp for free..

We holiday usually with motorhoming friends, two different couples, and whilst we all  have differing opinions on what constitutes good value only two of the three couples ever expect to 'camp' for free!!

hitchglitch replied on 20/09/2016 13:56

Posted on 20/09/2016 13:56

I have admiration for anybody running a CL because, surely, it must be just a hobby? It doesn't make commercial sense with only 5 vans allowed. So, I am happy to pay that much for a really good site and location but agree that electricity costs have a lot to answer for.

Fisherman replied on 20/09/2016 14:55

Posted on 20/09/2016 14:55

MichaelT I only deal in realities. It wa£14 per night for those nights we stayed there.Not interested in pricesat different times. Thats why we never use CC in peak.

MichaelT replied on 20/09/2016 16:00

Posted on 20/09/2016 16:00

MichaelT I only deal in realities. It wa£14 per night for those nights we stayed there.Not interested in pricesat different times. Thats why we never use CC in peak.

Write your comments here...agreed but it does point out that even the NT are getting in on the act to make as mucha s possible where they can.

tigerfish replied on 20/09/2016 17:03

Posted on 20/09/2016 17:03

As far as i am concerned I am happy to pay a good CL with Electricity and water £14 - £15 per night.

Have just spent 14 nights in Pembrokshire on CL's both not only with EHU but also very nice wash room shower & toilets for £14 pn.  The second of the two not only provided the same facilities, but greated each new arrival with a tray of Hot tea/coffee and biscuits.  Again at £14pn.  Now thats what I call good value!  Who would want a Club site under those circumstances?

TF

moulesy replied on 20/09/2016 17:11

Posted on 20/09/2016 17:11

Brian - if you're ever looking for a short break fairly near your neck of the woods, I can recommend Forton House CL near Chard. Nice village site, easy access, level pitches, excellent loo/shower for £15 a night. I've just left a more detailed review! Happy

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